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  <sessionName>Fifty-Fifth Parliament, First Session (55-1)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
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      <heading>Question Time</heading>
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    <subject>
      <name>Federal Voice to Parliament Referendum</name>
      <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000358">
        <heading>Federal Voice to Parliament Referendum</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Black</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2023-09-27T01:00:00+09:30">
            <name>Federal Voice to Parliament Referendum</name>
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        <startTime time="2023-09-27T14:02:17+09:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS (Black—Leader of the Opposition) (14:02):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Has the Premier's attitude towards the Voice referendum changed over the past three months and, if so, why? With your leave, sir, and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
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          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order.</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  There is a point of order from the Leader of Government Business.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
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          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Standing order 97: the question assumes a level of facts in the question and I ask the member to rephrase the question.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! There is a point of order to the point of order. I will hear the member for Morialta.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  The question was: has the Premier's attitude changed? It doesn't presume any facts.</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000367">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  As the Government Whip helpfully claims, it presumes that he has an attitude and, if that is the standard to which the government thinks anyone should be held—that a minister has an attitude towards a matter of public policy—then that is nonsensical.</text>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! It's a matter of very fine judgement. Different or reasonable people might come to different conclusions about the use of the language. It may be that there is a more neutral way of expressing the same point—for example, what is the Premier's view, or if the Premier—</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000371">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, indeed. However, I am going to—</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000373">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Indeed, 'Does the Premier have a view?' The Leader of the Opposition is creative enough, and an experienced legislator, that I am sure he will come to a form of words that will be acceptable to all.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Black</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  Thank you, Mr Speaker. Does the Premier stand by his comments from June? With your leave, sir, and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000376">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Black</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  In June, the Premier stated in parliament, 'I will do everything I can as Premier of this state to advocate for a yes vote to our national parliament.' In contrast, last week <term>The Advertiser</term> reported that the Premier, and I quote:</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000378">
          <inserted>...is vowing the...the federal Voice to Parliament [campaign] won't disrupt his 'day job'…</inserted>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The question is in order, and the Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2023-09-27T14:04:53+09:30" />
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          <timeStamp time="2023-09-27T14:04:53+09:30" />
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Premier) (14:04):</by>  I thank the Leader of the Opposition for his question. I say that with a moment of pause. Nothing will disrupt me or anyone from the government on executing our day job. Our day job, of course, particularly in respect of myself, is a diverse range of responsibilities, and I do consider one of those responsibilities to be to publicly advocate for a change to the constitution that I think makes Australia a fairer place.</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000382">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  This is a view that I and my team have had for some time. I am very proud to remind the Leader of the Opposition that the very first policy that we announced as a Labor opposition under my leadership was to initiate a Voice to Parliament and honour the Uluru Statement from the Heart—the very first policy that we committed ourselves to.</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000385">The Leader of the Opposition asks if anyone has changed their position, and I think that is a reasonable question. Is there anyone in this parliament who has changed their position on a Voice to Parliament? As it turns out, there are a whole range of people in this parliament who have changed their position with respect to a Voice to Parliament because in the lead-up to the election—</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000386">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  In the lead-up to the election, the then Marshall government had a position not only to support a Voice to Parliament but to legislate one themselves.</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000389">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000390">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  Of course, they never got around to it—</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000392">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000393">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Morialta!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —which was par for the course for almost every position they had on almost every single issue. They never got around to legislating the Voice.</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000395">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Morialta is warned.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  We committed to it, and we did it within 12 months of forming office because when we say we are going to do something, we do it, particularly when it is something—</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000398">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000399">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Badcoe!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —that is core to our beliefs. On 30 August, only a few weeks ago, I was very proud to be with the Prime Minister of our nation in the northern suburbs of Adelaide to launch the yes campaign for the change to our constitution to establish the Voice to Parliament. I spoke at this event only a few weeks ago with the Prime Minister. I have had the opportunity to be able to do a few different campaign events in and around that. We will maintain our effort on this side of the chamber to advocate for the change.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
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        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  It is important for the Australian community, including South Australians, to understand the proposition that is before them. It is very simple: it is whether or not we establish a non-binding advisory committee to advise the Commonwealth of Australia on matters that pertain to the interests of Aboriginal people.</text>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000404">I for one have a pretty simple view, which is that Aboriginal people are entitled to a Voice on matters that pertain to their interests, which is why we have legislated for the Voice to Parliament in South Australia. We look forward to that being up and running next year. No-one on this side of the house has changed their position, but I note that almost everyone on the opposite side of the house has.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230927c211a9c8c01a4f7d80000406">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
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