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    <name>Question Time</name>
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      <name>General Practitioner Payroll Tax</name>
      <text id="2023092608e7b27cdebc4daca0000314">
        <heading>General Practitioner Payroll Tax</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c" kind="question">
        <name>Mrs HURN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Schubert</electorate>
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          <question date="2023-09-26T01:30:00+09:30">
            <name>General Practitioner Payroll Tax</name>
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        <startTime time="2023-09-26T14:13:28+09:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c">Mrs HURN (Schubert) (14:13):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Health and Wellbeing. What impact will proposed GP payroll tax changes have on emergency departments and ramping in South Australia? With your leave, sir, and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
        <text id="2023092608e7b27cdebc4daca0000316">Leave granted.</text>
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        <name>Mrs HURN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Schubert</electorate>
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          <by role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c">Mrs HURN:</by>  The AMA has stated that as a result of the new GP payroll tax treatment that 'if practices are forced to close, patients will have no choice but to look to emergency departments for treatment and care' they need.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Lee</electorate>
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            <name>Treasurer</name>
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            <name>Minister for Defence and Space Industries</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN (Lee—Treasurer) (14:13):</by>  Well, I guess I reiterate: there are no payroll tax changes. There's no legislative change. There's no regulatory change. Nothing changes, except for the realisation that a number of—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Cowdrey</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Colton</electorate>
        <text id="2023092608e7b27cdebc4daca0000319">
          <by role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d">Mr Cowdrey:</by>  Nothing to see here. Nothing has changed.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023092608e7b27cdebc4daca0000320">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Lee</electorate>
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            <name>Treasurer</name>
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            <name>Minister for Defence and Space Industries</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  Well, I'm glad that the member for Colton is finally engaging on the issue. It's the first syllable we have heard from him as shadow treasurer about this.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Cowdrey</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Colton</electorate>
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          <by role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d">Mr Cowdrey:</by>  I asked you a question about this seven months ago.</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
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        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Lee</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Treasurer</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Defence and Space Industries</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  It has always been left up to the true front bench members—</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Cowdrey</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Colton</electorate>
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          <by role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d">Mr Cowdrey:</by>  Nothing to see here.</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, member for Colton!</text>
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        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Lee</electorate>
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            <name>Treasurer</name>
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            <name>Minister for Defence and Space Industries</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  It has always been left up to the true front bench of those opposite, not the member for Colton. As I was explaining to those who have steadfastly remained ignorant on this issue—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023092608e7b27cdebc4daca0000329">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! Member for Morialta! The Treasurer has the call.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Lee</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Treasurer</name>
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            <name>Minister for Defence and Space Industries</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  Such are the burdens of majority. Yes, I understand that, deputy leader. As I was explaining to those opposite, this is not a new impost. This is not a result of taxation changes. This is about assisting a group to come into compliance with their longstanding tax obligations.</text>
        <text id="2023092608e7b27cdebc4daca0000331">I have had a lengthy discussion with the AMA, including their president, Dr John Williams, and what became clear to me, amongst other things during the course of that discussion, is that there is a lot of misapprehension and a misunderstanding about what payroll tax is, how it's applied, and what the impact of that would be on a GP, let alone a broader practice. </text>
        <text id="2023092608e7b27cdebc4daca0000332">That is why we have been spending months working through the representative organisation for GPs, the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners, to discuss and mutually understand the issue and then design a process by which they have plenty of time and a runway of activity in order to manage this issue, so that those sorts of issues that some people in the AMA are worried about don't come to fruition.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! The Treasurer has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Lee</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Treasurer</name>
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            <name>Minister for Defence and Space Industries</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  I don't accept the fact that the characterisations of this, from time to time, by some people in the profession are accurate. Let me give you an example. During the course of that discussion, there was a concern that the payroll tax might apply to all of the billables of a practice, all of the money that gets paid either by a patient and/or by the Medicare Benefits Schedule. </text>
        <text id="2023092608e7b27cdebc4daca0000336">That is simply wrong. That is not the case. That is not how payroll tax is applied. It's not applied to the revenue of a business. It's not applied to the turnover of a business. It's not applied to the operational expenses of a business. Instead, it's only applied to the eligible wages of a business and, even then, it doesn't apply to all of the wages. It only applies to the wages above the payroll tax tax-free threshold. </text>
        <text id="2023092608e7b27cdebc4daca0000337">Once you understand that it doesn't apply in the way in which many GPs have immediately understood payroll tax to apply to them, then you can understand why the contention that GPs will immediately resign or retire or close their practices is unlikely to eventuate—because the conception about how the tax applies does not marry up to how the legislation is drafted and how it will apply to their business.</text>
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