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  <date date="2023-09-12T11:00:00+09:30" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fifth Parliament, First Session (55-1)</sessionName>
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  <proceeding>
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000304">
      <heading>Question Time</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
      <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000305">
        <heading>Ambulance Ramping</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Black</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2023-09-12T01:30:00+09:30">
            <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2023-09-12T14:12:09+09:30" />
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000306">
          <timeStamp time="2023-09-12T14:12:09+09:30" />
          <by role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS (Black—Leader of the Opposition) (14:12):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Does the Premier accept responsibility for ramping levels in South Australia? With your leave, sir, and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000307">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Black</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000308">
          <by role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  Since the 2022 state election, and despite promising to fix ramping, the Labor government has delivered the 15 worst ramping months in the history of South Australia.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2023-09-12T14:12:36+09:30" />
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000309">
          <timeStamp time="2023-09-12T14:12:36+09:30" />
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Premier) (14:12):</by>  I would like to thank the Leader of the Opposition for his question because his question comes at an important time in the context of the challenge that the state has to alleviate the level of ramping that we have. I am very pleased to report to the house, to the parliament and to the people of South Australia more broadly that what we have seen this winter is a dramatic improvement—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mrs Hurn</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Schubert</electorate>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000310">
          <by role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c">Mrs Hurn:</by>  It was the worst winter on record last year.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000311">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Schubert is warned. The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mrs Hurn</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Schubert</electorate>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000312">
          <by role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c">Mrs Hurn:</by>  Worst winter on record.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000313">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000314">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000315">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The Premier has the call.</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000316">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5106" />
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000317">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Schubert, you are on two warnings. The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000318">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  This winter, we saw an improvement in ramping numbers on what we saw in the winter prior. I am very pleased to report that—</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000319">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000320">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Member for Frome, order! The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000321">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —May this year is better than May last year. June this year is better than June last year—</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000322">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000323">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Morialta!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000324">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —July this year is better than July last year, and August this year is better than August last year, which speaks to a trend of improvement.</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000325">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000326">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The member for Morialta is warned. The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000327">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  A point that has been made in this place on a number of occasions—and I am happy to repeat it for the benefit of the members of the opposition and many other South Australians who are interested—at the time of the election last year, when South Australians called 000, 66 per cent of the time they knew the ambulance would be late. They knew that, as a matter of fact, there was a better than even chance that when they called 000 during their time of urgent need they would see the ambulance not roll up on time, and instead a life would be at risk on many occasions because the ambulance was late. What we have been able to deliver over the course of the last 15 months as a result of opening beds and employing more nurses, more doctors and more ambulance officers—</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000328">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000329">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000330">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —is a dramatic improvement in ambulance response times. Lots of that improvement is as a direct consequence of the active policy interventions that this government has made, including a record investment. But it's also true that some of the improvement to ambulance response times that we have seen this winter—which of course are better again than what we saw last winter—is because we have started to see signs of improvement in regard to the volume of hours of transfer-of-care data. We need that trend to continue. This government is not going to make the same mistake of the former government: at the first sign of positive data—</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000331">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000332">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The member for Hartley is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000333">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —irresponsibly claiming victory, irresponsibly making representations to the public to suggest that—</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000334">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000335">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000336">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —the whole problem is fixed and there's nothing to see here.</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000337">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000338">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Frome is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000339">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  We acknowledge this challenge, and we make active policy choices to confront the challenge by making the biggest investments in health infrastructure that this state has ever seen. The good news for those people who are working so hard on the frontline within our health service more broadly is there are a lot more resources coming.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mrs Hurn</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Schubert</electorate>
        <page num="5107" />
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000340">
          <by role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c">Mrs Hurn:</by>  They voted for you to fix it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000341">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Schubert!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000342">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  There are still more nurses to be employed, still more doctors to be recruited, and more ambulance officers to enter on the frontline—</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000343">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000344">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000345">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —as that progressively ramps up over the course of the next few years.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5384" referenceid="facf38f4c95b4f27b86257b48e3f699a" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Patterson</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morphett</electorate>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000346">
          <by role="member" id="5384" referenceid="facf38f4c95b4f27b86257b48e3f699a">Mr Patterson:</by>  Extra car parks to park the ambulances.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000347">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Morphett!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000348">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  More beds, more nurses, more doctors, more ambulance officers: we want that trend of improvement to continue. We acknowledge that there is still a lot of work to be done, but we are heading in the right direction, which is exactly what we wanted to deliver as we came to government.</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000349">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000350">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000351">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339" referenceid="578eb1a82ef14e8ab4261939b72f9549">Mr Whetstone interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202309124864b76be3c9466580000352">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Chaffey!</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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