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    <name>Question Time</name>
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      <name>Establishment of Adelaide University</name>
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        <heading>Establishment of Adelaide University</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
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            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2023-07-06T01:30:00+09:30">
            <name>Establishment of Adelaide University</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER (Morialta—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (14:28):</by>  In the Premier's answer, he made a number of claims, including kids from Elizabeth going to university, and indeed increasing numbers of student engagement that the Premier's proposition would achieve over any alternative. Can the Premier identify, first, when the bill will be released, and secondly—</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  There is a point of order, member for Morialta.</text>
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        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
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            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  —when further information will be provided to the people of South Australia—</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Morialta, there is a point of order.</text>
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        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
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            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  —to enable consideration of those—</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000526">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Be seated, member for Morialta! I anticipate that this is inviting hypotheticals.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Lee</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Treasurer</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4842" referenceid="78a22826e43d4639bdfa63b5f3ef73f9">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  I understood that standing orders required the seeking of leave before making an explanation, particularly if it's made in advance of asking a question.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The member for Morialta.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
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            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  It has been the convention for a long time that in relation to a supplementary one explains what was in the first question and then asks the questions. My question was in order.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Member for Flinders, your colleague is seeking the call. I am going to give the member for Morialta the opportunity to recast the question, mindful of our concerns in relation to hypotheticals. Standing orders still apply to supplementary questions. The member for Morialta has the call.</text>
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        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
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            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  Thank you, sir. The supplementary is: when will the government release the bill and does the Premier commit to all the information that is relevant to the government's decisions being released into the public domain?</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  That is two questions, but I am going to allow it.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Premier) (14:30):</by>  I welcome the questions from the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. I can confirm that, having had the final agreement signed between the three parties, Adelaide Uni, UniSA and the government, on Monday the Deputy Premier brought into cabinet a submission that facilitates the formal drafting of the bill and also public consultation on the bill. We anticipate, because much work has already been done, that the bill will be released publicly sometime in the next fortnight or thereabouts—in about a fortnight's time. As soon as that happens, of course it will be made available to the opposition and—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000537">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Florey! Member for Chaffey!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —also a committee of the parliament, should the other place choose to establish the proposed committee.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000540">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Florey!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  In respect of the bill, in around about a fortnight.</text>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000542">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000543">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for West Torrens!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  In respect of the other information, yes. So the government naturally—</text>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000545">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5387" referenceid="e05f224a87834b10abca5a0839ea45b3">Mr Brown interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000546">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Florey is warned.</text>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000547">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5387" referenceid="e05f224a87834b10abca5a0839ea45b3">Mr Brown interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000548">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Florey, order! The Premier has the call.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  Naturally, there has been an awful amount of work done between the various parties over the course of the last six months and also in the lead-up to that. There has been a lot of information shared between the two universities and the state government that has instructed Treasury's formulation of the financial assistance package.</text>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000550">There has been other information the government has been in receipt of too; some of it will be subject to commercial-in-confidence. Both the Deputy Premier and I have made it clear to both vice-chancellors and chancellors that the government is enthusiastic to see the universities release as much information as they possibly can in such a way that doesn't compromise their commercial operations.</text>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000551">Much of the information that we have received, and the Treasurer, the Deputy Premier and I have consumed, I don't see a reason for, on first blush from my perspective, why that can't be put into the public realm. The reason why we have an appetite from the government to put as much in the public realm as possible is because, on almost every reading, this is a proposition that stacks up in the interests of the state.</text>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000552">Yes, there are undoubtedly challenges identified. Yes, there are risks. This is a big endeavour. You can't bring two institutions of this scale and scope together without there being risks. We have known that from the start. But there are also extraordinary rewards to be had, and we want as much detail in the public record to facilitate that, and it is something that we will be encouraging the universities to do.</text>
        <text id="2023070621a59a9f396c402ca0000553">We appreciate, as I know the opposition appreciates, there are some elements that they want to protect in terms of what is their IP, and there is good reason for that. We certainly want to facilitate more information being made available to the committee rather than less.</text>
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