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  <sessionName>Fifty-Fifth Parliament, First Session (55-1)</sessionName>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Adelaide Aquatic Centre</name>
      <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000498">
        <heading>Adelaide Aquatic Centre</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. TARZIA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hartley</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2023-06-28T01:00:00+09:30">
            <name>Adelaide Aquatic Centre</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2023-06-28T14:32:32+09:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36">The Hon. V.A. TARZIA (Hartley) (14:32):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport. Can the minister guarantee that all users of the current Adelaide Aquatic Centre will be redirected before the centre shuts down for works? With your leave, sir, and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000500">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. TARZIA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hartley</electorate>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000501">
          <by role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36">The Hon. V.A. TARZIA:</by>  On 23 June, a former swimming instructor, her name is Louise, told 891 AM radio:</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000502">
          <inserted>I've been at the Aquatic Centre all this week because my children's school has been there doing the school program. There's no way they're going to be able to fit them in elsewhere.</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <startTime time="2023-06-28T14:33:05+09:30" />
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000503">
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          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Minister for Infrastructure and Transport, Minister for Energy and Mining) (14:33):</by>  We are doing our very best.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124" referenceid="f23532a2ce2a49c8b700d8422552289d" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. D.G. Pisoni</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Unley</electorate>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000504">
          <by role="member" id="3124" referenceid="f23532a2ce2a49c8b700d8422552289d">The Hon. D.G. Pisoni:</by>  That's it, is it?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000505">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Unley!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124" referenceid="f23532a2ce2a49c8b700d8422552289d" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. D.G. Pisoni</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Unley</electorate>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000506">
          <by role="member" id="3124" referenceid="f23532a2ce2a49c8b700d8422552289d">The Hon. D.G. Pisoni:</by>  No guarantee.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000507">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000508">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000509">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Florey, order! Member for Adelaide!</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000510">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000511">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Florey is warned. The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000512">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  We took to the election a policy—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. Tarzia</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hartley</electorate>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000513">
          <by role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36">The Hon. V.A. Tarzia:</by>  Yes, we saw it—the one you deleted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000514">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Hartley is warned. The minister has the call.</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000515">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36">The Hon. V.A. Tarzia interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000516">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, member for Hartley! You have asked the question, the minister is answering.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000517">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  My young friend is prematurely interjecting again.</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000518">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000519">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000520">
          <event kind="interjection">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000521">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Do you think?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000522">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <page num="4555" />
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000523">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  We took to the election a policy of offering two options to the people of South Australia. The overarching policy was a brand-new aquatic centre. The question that we were posing to the people of South Australia, especially in the seat of Adelaide, was that we would either build a new aquatic centre on the existing site, which naturally would have facilitated the closing of the site, or building on a new site—</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000524">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36">The Hon. V.A. Tarzia interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000525">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Hartley is warned for a final time. The minister has the call.</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000526">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36">The Hon. V.A. Tarzia interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000527">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Hartley, you have asked the question and the minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000528">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  We offered the public a choice, and they overwhelmingly opted to choose the Labor government's choice. We have now been implementing that policy. We initially wanted to have a site that was able to utilise the existing Aquatic Centre to remain open while we were building the new site. After having consulted with the local users of the Parklands and the people who use the Aquatic Centre, the difficult but best decision in the long term was to close the facility and utilise some of that site to build a new facility, which gives us a number of wins.</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000529">It gives us two playing fields a lot earlier to allow more activation of the Parklands faster and sooner. It gives us a better outcome in terms of the built form for the facility. We have made this decision well over a year in advance to try to help move and relocate people who use the pool, but there was always the risk that we would need to close the centre for a period of time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Cowdrey</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Colton</electorate>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000530">
          <by role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d">Mr Cowdrey:</by>  Why did you commit to not doing it?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000531">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Colton!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000532">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Unlike members opposite—</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000533">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000534">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Member for Unley!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000535">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —what we did was take a comprehensive plan and inform people well in advance that this was a risk because what they are getting at the end of this is a brand-new aquatic centre that is world class, a great recreational centre that is going to help people not only get fit, healthy and active but learn to swim. It will incorporate the Parklands—</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000536">
          <event kind="interjection">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000537">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Yes, there will be water slides; that's right. People like using water slides. People like aquatic sports.</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000538">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000539">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Member for Elder!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000540">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I don't know what the aversion is to having fun. I don't know what the aversion is to using the Parklands. I don't know what the aversion is to being fit and healthy.</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000541">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000542">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Morialta!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000543">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  It is a good outcome for young people.</text>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000544">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000545">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000546">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  We are doing everything we can to try to utilise the other existing sites that we have to try to keep some of these services ongoing, but it is going to be difficult. We are making a tough decision for the long term. We are not going to make the easy choices: we are going to make the tough decision, and the tough decision is to close the centre, because it is the right one. We stand by that decision because we are going to get a better outcome at the end.</text>
        <page num="4556" />
        <text id="20230628a8f55d9e286c4a1ba0000547">What the Premier wants us to do, what the Premier is demanding of us, is long-term thinking: not building on, sterilising, the expansion site for the RAH to try to save time and money. We are doing the right thing. What we are doing is building an aquatic centre that is going to last and making sure we get the right outcome for people.</text>
      </talker>
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