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  <date date="2023-03-22T10:30:00+10:30" />
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
      <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000487">
        <heading>Ambulance Ramping</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c" kind="question">
        <name>Mrs HURN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Schubert</electorate>
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          <question date="2023-03-22T00:00:00+10:30">
            <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
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        <startTime time="2023-03-22T14:20:05+10:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c">Mrs HURN (Schubert) (14:20):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Does the Premier stand by his comments made at the SA Press Club last year on 10 March? With your leave, sir, and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000489">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mrs HURN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Schubert</electorate>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000490">
          <by role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c">Mrs HURN:</by>  In a final debate before the 2022 state election, the now Premier said, 'Fixing the ramping crisis is about reducing it dramatically, hopefully down to the 485 per cent level that it was, well low, 485 per cent from where it is now.'</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2023-03-22T14:20:40+10:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Premier) (14:20):</by>  What the member for Schubert didn't do is read out the rest of that quote—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000493">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! Member for Colton!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000494">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —'to the extent that ambulances start rolling up on time'. This is the critical point we need to understand.</text>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000495">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000496">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  Right. The member for Schubert—</text>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000498">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="3474" />
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000499">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! The member for Colton is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  The member for Schubert stands up here and reads quotes halfway through without completing them—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —and thinks it's clever. What I would say to the member for Schubert, as I would say to all South Australians, and as I would say to members of the commentariat or members of the public, is we are focused on delivering our election commitment, and our election commitment, as was stated on 10 March in the leaders' debate—</text>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000504">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000505">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Florey!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000506">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —that the member for Schubert refers to, our election commitment was to South Australians that we would—</text>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000507">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000508">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Colton is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000509">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —get ambulances rolling up on time. I would like to put in a bit of context about what all this actually means, because it's easy, in all the screaming and the shouting and the wailing that occurs in this place, to forget what we are actually talking about here, because the genesis of the policy that we took to the election, which—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. Gardner</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000510">
          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. Gardner:</by>  'Labor will fix the ramping crisis'.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000511">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Morialta!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000512">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —wasn't just a slogan it was actually—and we are committed to fixing the ramping crisis, as the member for Morialta needs to get his head around. What we said at the time wasn't just a slogan. It was actually a considered, thoughtful policy for the biggest increase in health spending that we have seen in a generation—in a generation.</text>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000513">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. Gardner interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000514">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Morialta!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000515">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  Three hundred additional beds, 300 additional nurses, over 100 additional doctors and 350 additional ambulance officers, and all the supporting infrastructure around that. We make those investments because what we are seeking to do is to impart a far better experience on those people who call 000 in their time of need.</text>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000516">When people call 000, when they see a loved one who has keeled over in pain, when they witness a car accident, or whatever the reason is, they want to do that knowing with confidence that their government is genuinely serious about providing the health system with all the resources they require, so that they can meet what they feel are their obligations to provide high-quality patient care, on time.</text>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000517">This is a difficult area of policy. We have allocated the resources, we have made the necessary investments and we go in with our eyes wide open, how substantial a task we have in front of us, particularly with an ageing population, particularly with a primary healthcare setting—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Cowdrey</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Colton</electorate>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000518">
          <by role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d">Mr Cowdrey:</by>  Stand by the statistic then. You set it—stand by it!</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000519">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Colton!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
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          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —a primary healthcare system that is cratering. We remain committed. We are committed to fixing the ramping crisis, with a very firm view of getting ambulances rolling up on time. That's what I said in the March press conference—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Cowdrey</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Colton</electorate>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000521">
          <by role="member" id="5377" referenceid="84fdb62c8e6644ce93a7ff01f8e92c3d">Mr Cowdrey:</by>  Would you stand by the statistic or not?</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="3475" />
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000522">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Colton is warned for a final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000523">
          <by role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —the member for Schubert read. The next time she gets up and reads quotes, can I invite her to read them to their conclusion, so as to not mislead the people of South Australia.</text>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000524">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230322aa57e1acb1f643bab0000525">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Member for Unley!</text>
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