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    <name>Question Time</name>
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      <heading>Question Time</heading>
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    <subject>
      <name>Union Advertising</name>
      <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000413">
        <heading>Union Advertising</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="6897" referenceid="281302ba05f944788bbdc4aa3396e0c9" kind="question">
        <name>Ms PRATT</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Frome</electorate>
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          <question date="2022-11-30T00:00:00+10:30">
            <name>Union Advertising</name>
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          <by role="member" id="6897" referenceid="281302ba05f944788bbdc4aa3396e0c9">Ms PRATT (Frome) (14:07):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Women. Has the minister received any correspondence, including from domestic violence survivors, in relation to John Setka's CFMEU advertisements on trams, and has she counselled the Premier on whether he should take action to stop such advertisements?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2022-11-30T00:00:00+10:30">
            <name>Union Advertising</name>
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        <startTime time="2022-11-30T14:08:19+10:30" />
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000415">
          <timeStamp time="2022-11-30T14:08:19+10:30" />
          <by role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0">The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD (Reynell—Minister for Child Protection, Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence, Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing) (14:08):</by>  Thank you very much to the member for the question. Thank you also to the member and other members from both sides of this house who joined me last night when the lights to Parliament House were lit in orange as part of the 16 Days of Activism against gender-based violence. Thank you, Mr Speaker and the President of the other place also, for allowing that really important lighting up.</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000416">What I speak to the Premier about in relation to domestic violence is our very, very clear set of policies—comprehensive policies—which are being enacted, policies that we took to the election focused on the prevention and eradication of domestic violence and what work we can do towards that very, very important goal, the most important goal. We have a comprehensive set of policies around that.</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000417">I speak to the Premier often about progress on those policies. One of the things which we have already committed to and which we are progressing is consultation about the preparation of legislation to criminalise coercive control. It's legislation that I actually moved some time ago from opposition. However, sadly, it wasn't progressed by those, who are now opposite, at that time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000418">
          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000419">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Minister, there is a—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing</name>
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        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000420">
          <by role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0">The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD:</by>  What I have been speaking with the Premier about—</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000421">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Minister, please be seated. There is a point of order from the member for Morialta, which I will hear under 134.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000422">
          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  Thank you, sir: standing order 98, debate.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000423">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I will listen carefully. The minister is required to answer the substance of the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0">The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD:</by>  As per the question, I have been speaking to the Premier in relation to domestic violence prevention and that conversation is multifaceted. One of the issues I have been speaking about with him recently is the consultation that we have been undertaking with particular groups of community members about their views on the progress of legislation to criminalise coercive control.</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000425">Just in the last couple of weeks I have had a very incredibly rich and informative conversation with Aboriginal members of our community from different parts of the state about their views in relation to the criminalisation of coercive control. Just this week, as I have been filling the Premier in on, we had another session with members of diverse multicultural communities—</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000426">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000427">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing</name>
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        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000428">
          <by role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0">The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD:</by>  —about their views—</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000429">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339" referenceid="578eb1a82ef14e8ab4261939b72f9549">Mr Whetstone interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000430">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Chaffey!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing</name>
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        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000431">
          <by role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0">The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD:</by>  —in relation to the criminalisation of coercive control, and the reason for those conversations with those communities, as I have spoken with the Premier about—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5387" referenceid="e05f224a87834b10abca5a0839ea45b3">
        <name>Mr BROWN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Florey</electorate>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000432">
          <by role="member" id="5387" referenceid="e05f224a87834b10abca5a0839ea45b3">Mr BROWN:</by>  Point of order, Mr Speaker: I ask the member for Flinders to withdraw that comment he made about the Labor Party enabling perpetrators of domestic violence.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000434">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! Minister, please be seated. We will resolve the point of order. The member for Florey—</text>
        <page num="2580" />
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000435">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000436">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. Hildyard</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000437">
          <by role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0">The Hon. K.A. Hildyard:</by>  That is so deeply offensive.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000438">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! I have the point of order.</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000439">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000440">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Hammond is warned. The member for Chaffey is warned.</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000441">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="6887" referenceid="a698e5b3774342a1b25d8bbef65f519c">Mrs Hurn interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000442">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Schubert is called to order.</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000443">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000444">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The member for Flinders.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="6888" referenceid="1b23b655d40349f8a472b7b9eeba16df">
        <name>Mr TELFER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Flinders</electorate>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000445">
          <by role="member" id="6888" referenceid="1b23b655d40349f8a472b7b9eeba16df">Mr TELFER:</by>  Sir, I would ask that you ask the member for Florey to apologise and withdraw his false accusations because that is not what I said at all.</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000446">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000447">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! I will hear the minister on the point of order. Minister, I will hear you on the point of order under 134. You have the right to be heard, and then I will resolve it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing</name>
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        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000448">
          <by role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0">The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD:</by>  I would like to raise a point of order—125—to express how deeply upset I am by anybody, let alone someone over there, telling me in this place that I enable perpetrators of domestic violence. That is absolutely deeply distressing—</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000449">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000450">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing</name>
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        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000451">
          <by role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0">The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD:</by>  —to me. I have spent every single day—</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000452">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000453">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing</name>
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        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000454">
          <by role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0">The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD:</by>  —I have been in this house absolutely working every day to move—</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000455">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000456">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing</name>
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        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000457">
          <by role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0">The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD:</by>  —legislation, to speak about, to shine a light on domestic violence, and I do not ever—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000458">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Minister—</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Women and the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing</name>
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        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000459">
          <by role="member" id="4846" referenceid="13be682a04ba433b88fa53e0b98e6bf0">The Hon. K.A. HILDYARD:</by>  —need to hear that again. It is completely unacceptable and deeply offensive.</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000460">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000461">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000462">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000463">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The house will come to order. I am on my feet—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. Cook</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hurtle Vale</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000464">
          <by role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82">The Hon. N.F. Cook:</by>  You are a disgrace!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000465">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Hurtle Vale! I am going to ask the member whether in fact the words were uttered. If the member answers no, that will resolve the issue. The member may also inform me as the Speaker as to what was in fact said.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="6888" referenceid="1b23b655d40349f8a472b7b9eeba16df">
        <name>Mr TELFER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Flinders</electorate>
        <page num="2581" />
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000466">
          <by role="member" id="6888" referenceid="1b23b655d40349f8a472b7b9eeba16df">Mr TELFER:</by>  Sir, the words which I was accused by the member for Florey of uttering were not my words at all.</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000467">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000468">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="6888" referenceid="1b23b655d40349f8a472b7b9eeba16df">
        <name>Mr TELFER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Flinders</electorate>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000469">
          <by role="member" id="6888" referenceid="1b23b655d40349f8a472b7b9eeba16df">Mr TELFER:</by>  And I am very happy to privately tell you the words that I spoke.</text>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000470">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20221130b379c40b396d4a2690000471">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! I am on my feet, members. Members, the member has made plain to me and the house that what he is accused of saying is not what in fact he said. That is sufficient to dispose of the point of order. I did not myself hear it; however, I am prepared to hear other points of order in relation to disposing of this matter. I did not hear it, the member denies it, the matter is resolved. We will return to question time.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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