<!--The Official Report of Parliamentary Debates (Hansard) of the Legislative Council and the House of Assembly of the Parliament of South Australia are covered by parliamentary privilege. Republication by others is not afforded the same protection and may result in exposure to legal liability if the material is defamatory. You may copy and make use of excerpts of proceedings where (1) you attribute the Parliament as the source, (2) you assume the risk of liability if the manner of your use is defamatory, (3) you do not use the material for the purpose of advertising, satire or ridicule, or to misrepresent members of Parliament, and (4) your use of the extracts is fair, accurate and not misleading. Copyright in the Official Report of Parliamentary Debates is held by the Attorney-General of South Australia.-->
<hansard id="" tocId="" xml:lang="EN-AU" schemaVersion="4.0" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="hansard_1_0.xsd" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML">
  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2022-11-29T11:00:00+10:30" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fifth Parliament, First Session (55-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>55</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>House of Assembly</house>
  <venue></venue>
  <reviewStage>published</reviewStage>
  <startPage num="2479" />
  <endPage num="2550" />
  <dateModified time="2023-07-06T08:46:33+09:30" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Hydrogen Jobs Plan</name>
      <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000390">
        <heading>Hydrogen Jobs Plan</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4839" referenceid="14882fc6372144e2bfdbf720df284df1" kind="question">
        <name>Mr HUGHES</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Giles</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2022-11-29T00:30:00+10:30">
            <name>Hydrogen Jobs Plan</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2022-11-29T14:23:07+10:30" />
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000391">
          <timeStamp time="2022-11-29T14:23:07+10:30" />
          <by role="member" id="4839" referenceid="14882fc6372144e2bfdbf720df284df1">Mr HUGHES (Giles) (14:23):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Energy and Mining. Can the minister update the house on the government's progress on the election commitment to deliver its Hydrogen Jobs Plan?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2022-11-29T00:30:00+10:30">
            <name>Hydrogen Jobs Plan</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2022-11-29T14:23:22+10:30" />
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000392">
          <timeStamp time="2022-11-29T14:23:22+10:30" />
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Minister for Infrastructure and Transport, Minister for Energy and Mining) (14:23):</by>  I thank the member for his question because I know he has a keen interest, as it impacts his home town dramatically. The key elements of the project have progressed well, which I will try to summarise in the short time I have available.</text>
        <page num="2506" />
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000393">Establish an expert panel and receive reports on the most appropriate location for our assets—check. Establish a dedicated—</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000394">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000395">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000396">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —Office of Hydrogen Power SA to deliver the project and ultimately run the operations—</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000397">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5571" referenceid="211fedb0b8c24354b29ce9c0acb17416">The Hon. J.K. Szakacs interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000398">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The member for Cheltenham is called to order. The minister has the call.</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000399">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5571" referenceid="211fedb0b8c24354b29ce9c0acb17416">The Hon. J.K. Szakacs interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000400">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Cheltenham knows better. The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000401">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Establish a dedicated Office of Hydrogen Power SA to deliver the project and ultimately run the operations of the plant as a debt-free government business enterprise—check. Undertake a thorough market sounding to gauge the private sector's appetite for—</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000402">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3120" referenceid="e8aa83ccffa94be0a00ef51416f9797c">Mr Pederick interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000403">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Hammond!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000404">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —the project and receive interest from 60 companies from all over the globe—check.</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000405">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000406">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Sixty.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000407">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Florey!</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000408">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000409">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Hammond! The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000410">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Establish relationships and sign seven statements of cooperation with major industry partners to work together—</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000411">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36">Mr Tarzia interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000412">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Hartley!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000413">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —to accelerate the development of South Australia's hydrogen energy economy and fast-track the global transition to clean energy—check. Start engagement for the development of a new hydrogen and renewable energy act to serve as a single window into government for the orderly and competitive development of hydrogen projects and large-scale renewable energy projects—check. Pre-engagement with native title groups on this world-class—</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000414">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000415">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! Member for Schubert! Member for Hartley! The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000416">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Something about Victoria and the weekend?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000417">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The minister won't respond to interjections.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000418">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Sorry. Pre-engagement with native title groups on this world-first act has occurred and broader engagement has now begun. The government has already hosted a two-day forum in Port Augusta earlier this month where I was joined by the Attorney-General and where many South Australian Aboriginal leaders gathered to discuss the growing renewable energy and hydrogen sector.</text>
        <page num="2507" />
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000419">The forum provided an initial opportunity for Indigenous groups and the government to work together to share information about guiding the successful development of renewable energy and the hydrogen economy. We wanted to make sure that our first Australians were the people we spoke with first about utilising the vast resources that we have in this state of our sun and wind.</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000420">I think it's fair to say that it was one of the best engagements I have seen as a minister, and that was shared by the local groups there. The Hydrogen Jobs Plan is not just a suite of world-first government-owned assets but it is also an opportunity to catalyse private investment in hydrogen projects, large-scale renewable energy projects and domestic value-adds by adding complexity to our economy. That is why it's called the Hydrogen Jobs Plan. The steps we have achieved so far—</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000421">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5384" referenceid="facf38f4c95b4f27b86257b48e3f699a">Mr Patterson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000422">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Morphett, order!</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000423">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000424">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:  Order!</by> The member for Morphett can ask questions in the usual way.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000425">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I'm not usually up to attacking those who are infirm. I know the member is recovering from surgery and I will give him the benefit of the doubt, but the new interconnector has claimed its first victim: Torrens Island. I think those 100 families that work at Torrens Island deserve an explanation from the opposition about their plans and they received none. In fact, what they were told was—</text>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000426">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000427">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Florey is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202211294cb842a347c9458ea0000428">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —this is just progress. They deserve better than that. The steps we have achieved so far are necessary on the journey to achieve our vision for private investment in South Australia in the order of billions of dollars while maintaining our beautiful landscapes and respecting traditional owners of this land.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
</hansard>