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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
      <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000677">
        <heading>Minister for Industrial Relations</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5377" kind="question">
        <name>Mr COWDREY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Colton</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2022-06-15">
            <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
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        <startTime time="2022-06-15T15:12:52" />
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000678">
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          <by role="member" id="5377">Mr COWDREY (Colton) (15:12):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Does the Premier retain confidence in his Minister for Industrial Relations? With your leave, sir, and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
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        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000679">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5377" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mr COWDREY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000680">
          <by role="member" id="5377">Mr COWDREY:</by>  On 2 June 2022, with limited—</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000681">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. Bignell interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000682">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, member for Mawson!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5377" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mr COWDREY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000683">
          <by role="member" id="5377">Mr COWDREY:</by>  —notice, the minister introduced a bill to the other place to amend the Return to Work Act. Among the immediate reactions, unions and Labor's own state council called for the bill to be withdrawn.</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000684">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000685">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000686">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  That's a different body.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5377" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mr COWDREY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000687">
          <by role="member" id="5377">Mr COWDREY:</by>  I have a lot less to do with it than you, Tom, fortunately.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000688">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for West Torrens, order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5377" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mr COWDREY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000689">
          <by role="member" id="5377">Mr COWDREY:</by>  Pardon me, it's state executive, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000690">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Colton, you will put your question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5377" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mr COWDREY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000691">
          <by role="member" id="5377">Mr COWDREY:</by>  Among the immediate reactions, unions and Labor's own executive council called for the bill to be withdrawn, with the Law Society, on 9 June, noting also that it among many others had not been consulted. Yesterday, on 14 June, the bill was withdrawn and the government gave notice that another bill would be introduced but in this place and not led by the minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <startTime time="2022-06-15T15:14:12" />
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000692">
          <timeStamp time="2022-06-15T15:14:12" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Premier) (15:14):</by>  I thank the member for Colton for his question because it provides an opportunity to respond on what is a really important issue of public policy and how the various parties in this place conduct themselves on matters that pertain to industrial relations.</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000693">Let me start with one of the things that the member for Colton raised in his question. He just said on the record, which will be verified by <term>Hansard</term>, that he's very grateful for the fact that he has nothing to do with the union movement or has less to do with it than us.</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000694">We on this side of the house have a fundamentally different view about how industrial relations should operate. I'm a firm believer that government policy should be seeking to achieve, particularly in IR, a balance between the interests of capital and labour. That means that on this side of the house we believe that unions have a seat at the table, just as businesses have a seat at the table. What we have been doing on this side of the house, over the course of the next—</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000695">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000696">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000697">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  On this side of the house, what we have been doing very diligently over the course of the last few weeks, if not months, is working very closely with both business and unions to try to solve a problem that has been left to us by the former government.</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000698">Let's just take a moment to expand on the facts that have actually led us to the position that we currently find ourselves in. The first Summerfield judgement was handed down in early 2019, circa three years ago. Since then—</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000699">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000700">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000701">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —and over the course of the last three years, the former government have dutifully ignored decision after decision by the industrial tribunal and courts that have confronted this issue.</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000702">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="740" />
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000703">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Colton! The member for Colton is called to order. The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000704">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  So much so that in 2021, when a final determination was made by the highest court in the State of South Australia, this government's response was to do nothing. Subsequently, the government sat back and watched leave being sought in the High Court that was subsequently rejected, and again what did the government do? Absolutely nothing. Soon after the change of government, we received advice—</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000705">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000706">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The Premier has the call.</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000707">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3124">The Hon. D.G. Pisoni interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000708">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Unley! The member for Unley is disorderly. The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000709">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  We received advice that without government action the WorkCover levy was going to go up to 2.2 per cent. Presumably, those on the opposite side of the house—</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000710">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000711">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000712">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —thought that was a perfectly reasonable course of events. They were utterly sanguine about the prospect of that substantial levy increase to be imposed upon businesses. We weren't going to allow that to occur. Unlike those opposite who claim to be the voice of small business—</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000713">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000714">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Colton!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000715">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —they did absolutely nothing—</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000716">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000717">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Morialta!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000718">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —absolutely nothing. They utterly—</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000719">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000720">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Morialta is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000721">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —relinquished their responsibility to soured economic policy, whereas on this side of the house—</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000722">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000723">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000724">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —we have been working very diligently to respond, and now what we will see is the introduction of a piece of legislation that has the support of both the trade union movement and employees—</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000725">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000726">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Members to my left!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000727">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —and employers.</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000728">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000729">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Morialta!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="741" />
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000730">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  I look forward to those opposite now having to get off the fence and having to make a decision about where you stand. Of course, those opposite can continue to evade. They can evade briefings, they can evade having to make decisions for as long as you like, but the people of South Australia will know—</text>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000731">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000732">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Morialta!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20220615b2d5c8936d0c4699b0000733">
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P.B. MALINAUSKAS:</by>  —and we look forward to seeing exactly how you respond when you have to make a decision in due course and having to vote on the bill.</text>
      </talker>
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