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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Homelessness Services</name>
      <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000351">
        <heading>Homelessness Services</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="question">
        <name>Mr SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Black</electorate>
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            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2022-05-18">
            <name>Homelessness Services</name>
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        <startTime time="2022-05-18T14:17:26" />
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          <by role="member" id="4837">Mr SPEIRS (Black—Leader of the Opposition) (14:17):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Human Services. Does the minister think it is acceptable to leave South Australians who are at risk of homelessness, rough sleeping and in some cases displaced from their families, waiting almost two weeks before the minister even acknowledges their urgent request for housing, let alone do anything about it?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000353">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir: standing order 97. The question involved argument. I would ask that the member rephrase the question and perhaps do it properly.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000354">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  There is some force. I will allow the leader some latitude because he is the leader, but I will give an opportunity to rephrase on this occasion.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mr SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000355">
          <by role="member" id="4837">Mr SPEIRS:</by>  Thank you for your latitude, Mr Speaker. My question again—or rephrased question—is to the Minister for Human Services. Is the minister aware that South Australians who are at risk of homelessness, sleeping rough and could be displaced from their families after traumatic events, are waiting almost two weeks before the minister acknowledges their urgent requests for assistance?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000356">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order: standing order 97. The Leader of the Opposition is asserting a fact.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000357">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  It's a matter of fine judgement. The question does appear to contemplate a state of affairs. On this occasion, I am going to permit the question, but I do emphasise standing order 97 to the leader. We wouldn't want it to become a habit.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hurtle Vale</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2022-05-18T14:18:55" />
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000358">
          <timeStamp time="2022-05-18T14:18:55" />
          <by role="member" id="4978">The Hon. N.F. COOK (Hurtle Vale—Minister for Human Services) (14:18):</by>  I'm not aware of that particular situation, but clearly if there was to be a situation like that I would like to act on it. When we actually took over the office there was something like 1,500 emails and messages—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>An honourable member</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000359">
          <by role="office">An honourable member:</by>  Really, 1,500?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000360">
          <by role="member" id="4978">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  —1,500. They come in en masse, and the reason that people are resorting to contacting—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000362">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by> Order! The member for Hartley is called to order.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000364">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000365">
          <by role="member" id="4978">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  I'm pretty happy to keep talking. It's their time.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000367">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Dunstan is called to order.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000368">
          <by role="member" id="4978">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  They either want information or not.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000370">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, members! There are a number of members who are contributing in a manner contrary to standing orders. The minister has the call and has not, as I understand it, concluded the answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000371">
          <by role="member" id="4978">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  As soon as a request comes into our office it is accepted as soon as the email comes into the inbox. As I explained to you, because of the situation of where we currently are in respect to housing and homelessness services, the providers are under an enormous amount of strain because of the way they were structured and the way that the changeover happened in such a rush, so there are more people who are under strain. We've got many more people who are homeless. We have far fewer properties. We saw over the last four years up to 2,000 vacant Housing Trust properties at any given time. We know that currently that number is coming down and that is because of the great work of the Housing Authority who are working under direction to prioritise bringing empty homes online.</text>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000372">I have also spent the last couple of months talking directly to a number of providers about the barriers and the problems that they have been facing in terms of being able to provide support and outreach to people who are in a terrible way in our community. We are heading into winter. I have reached out to our department also in relation to having a review and another look at the Code Blue triggers and the Code Blue situation. We had a winter probably milder than previously. Who knows what is going to happen this time?</text>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000373">We are taking a whole range of strategies across the board to ensure that we are able to provide the best possible outcomes for people who are sleeping rough. My office is absolutely prioritising the—</text>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000374">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000375">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, the member for Chaffey!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000376">
          <by role="member" id="4978">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  —information that is coming to them.</text>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000377">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000378">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Flinders! Member for Chaffey!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000379">
          <by role="member" id="4978">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  In terms of the particular situation or the particular person, you can provide me with further detail. I can follow that up straightaway now if you like—</text>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000380">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000381">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Hammond, for Unley!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000382">
          <by role="member" id="4978">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  —and even have an answer to you before the end—</text>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000383">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000384">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Hammond is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000385">
          <by role="member" id="4978">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  —of question time. But without a name, without a date, I don't have any information for you in respect of that particular case. What I have also found today, which you might find interesting, is that there are a range of people who have been reaching out to the minister's office using Minister for Human Services as the email. That's not my email. My email is ministerhumanservices@sa.gov.au, so if somebody has reached out—</text>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000386">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000387">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The member for Chaffey is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000388">
          <by role="member" id="4978">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  —via the incorrect email—</text>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000389">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4840">Mr Tarzia interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000390">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Hartley!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000391">
          <by role="member" id="4978">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  —that is something that potentially has not been picked up. I'm really happy to follow up a particular case for any one of you at any time. As you know, I will immediately answer the phone if you pick up the phone to me. I don't know the particular case if you don't give it to me. Obviously, you shouldn't provide details directly in question time, but if you want to give it to me privately I will follow it up—no problem.</text>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000392">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202205185537a5e186b14c26a0000393">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! We were doing so well.</text>
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