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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2021-11-18" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
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  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>House of Assembly</house>
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  <proceeding>
    <name>Parliamentary Procedure</name>
    <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001090">
      <heading>Parliamentary Procedure</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>Standing Orders Suspension</name>
      <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001091">
        <heading>Standing Orders Suspension</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="speech">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Stuart</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2021-11-18T16:55:20" />
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001092">
          <timeStamp time="2021-11-18T16:55:20" />
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN (Stuart—Minister for Energy and Mining) (16:55):</by>  I move without notice:</text>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001093">
          <inserted>That standing orders be so far suspended as to enable me to move a motion forthwith for the rescission of a sessional order.</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3120">
        <name>The Acting Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Mr Pederick</electorate>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001094">
          <by role="member" id="3120">The ACTING SPEAKER (Mr Pederick):</by>  There not being an absolute majority, ring the bells.</text>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001095">
          <term>An absolute majority of the whole number of members being present:</term>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001096">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader of Government Business, it may be that you wish to address me on the suspension. You have leave. The motion has been accepted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001097">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  The government seeks to suspend standing orders to revoke the sessional order that was brought into this place on 12 October that allows the Speaker to set any potential additional sitting days. The reason that we need to suspend standing orders to do it is that this is the last day of the scheduled sitting program.</text>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001098">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001099">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The Leader of Government Business has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001100">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  A letter has been received by all MPs from the Speaker indicating the Speaker's wish with regard to other sitting days but, given that this section of the time in the chamber is devoted to debating the suspension or otherwise, the reason that we need to suspend parliament to do this now is that it is of course time sensitive. This is the last scheduled day for parliament and so this is—</text>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001101">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001102">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001103">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  —the time to determine whether it is the will of the house for the sessional order to stay in place or the will of the house for it to be revoked. To do it any time later than this would be a waste, of course, and completely inappropriate. It is without doubt necessary that this matter is considered by the house now.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="speech">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <startTime time="2021-11-18T16:59:48" />
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001104">
          <timeStamp time="2021-11-18T16:59:48" />
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens) (16:59):</by>  What an antidemocratic, anti-accountable—</text>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001105">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001106">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —terrified of scrutiny—</text>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001107">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001108">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="8749" />
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001109">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Terrified of having questions asked of them, terrified of what comes next. But do you know what? I understand the fear. I can see the fear in the member for Gibson.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001110">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  There is a point of order. Member for West Torrens, please be seated.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001111">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Mr Speaker, I ask you to direct the member back to the substance of the debate, which is the suspension.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001112">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, It was a spirited debate. I will draw the attention of the member for West Torrens to the substance of the debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001113">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The government at 5 o'clock today, a couple of months away from the next state election, does not want the parliament to sit again. Why? Why would the government not want to sit again? Perhaps they want to suspend standing orders—</text>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001114">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001115">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! There is a point of order. Member for West Torrens, please be seated.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001116">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Again, the member is trying to debate something different from the substance, which is the suspension of the standing orders.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001117">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, well, I have allowed the member for West Torrens quite some latitude. We will come to the substance of the suspension question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001118">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  There is only one reason the government feels that it is urgent to suspend standing orders, and that is to run protection for their embattled Deputy Premier, who has just faced a humiliating no-confidence motion—the first passed since responsible government began in South Australia—in the house of government.</text>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001119">Never before, and now they do not want anymore scrutiny. Why? Because the house will impose penalties on a member who has misled us. What they are trying to do is shut down our democratic institutions.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001120">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for West Torrens—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001121">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Could you go any lower, Premier?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001122">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Member for West Torrens, be seated.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001123">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Mr Speaker, I have asked three times. On the second time I asked you directed the member and he is defying your ruling.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001124">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Well, I have not in fact upheld the point of order, but on this occasion I will. The point of order has been upheld. Member for West Torrens, we must come to the substance.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001125">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Attempting to suspend standing orders, they are working to attempt to weaken the office of Speaker. The office of Speaker, as we speak, is considering a matter of privilege into the Deputy Premier, given a select committee report we have received. Why they want to suspend standing orders now, an hour before we are due to rise, is that they wish to run for cover and not reappear for scrutiny in the parliament for four months.</text>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001126">Not a confident government, not a confident Premier, but a Premier leading a scandal-prone government that is fearful of scrutiny. That is why they want to suspend standing orders, but what they are afraid of today is an independent Chair overseeing the parliament, making sure the parliament sits when it is in the public interest. We will not be supporting this from a cowardly Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001127">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I will put the question. Does the leader wish to exercise a right of reply?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001128">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  I want to vote on this matter and then move on and vote on the next one—democracy.</text>
      </talker>
      <division>
        <page num="8750" />
        <text style="text-align: center;" id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001129">Ayes&amp;#x9;24</text>
        <text style="text-align: center;" id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001130">Noes&amp;#x9;22</text>
        <text style="text-align: center;" id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001131">Majority&amp;#x9;2</text>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001132">
          <table>
            <rowtitle>
              <cell colspan="3">AYES</cell>
            </rowtitle>
            <row>
              <cell>Basham, D.K.B.</cell>
              <cell>Chapman, V.A.</cell>
              <cell>Cowdrey, M.J.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Duluk, S.</cell>
              <cell>Ellis, F.J.</cell>
              <cell>Gardner, J.A.W.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Harvey, R.M. (teller)</cell>
              <cell>Knoll, S.K.</cell>
              <cell>Luethen, P.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Marshall, S.S.</cell>
              <cell>McBride, N.</cell>
              <cell>Murray, S.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Patterson, S.J.R.</cell>
              <cell>Pederick, A.S.</cell>
              <cell>Pisoni, D.G.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Power, C.</cell>
              <cell>Sanderson, R.</cell>
              <cell>Speirs, D.J.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Tarzia, V.A.</cell>
              <cell>Teague, J.B.</cell>
              <cell>Treloar, P.A.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>van Holst Pellekaan, D.C.</cell>
              <cell>Whetstone, T.J.</cell>
              <cell>Wingard, C.L.</cell>
            </row>
          </table>
        </text>
        <text id="2021111846c4b17bf1e8401cb0001133">
          <table>
            <rowtitle>
              <cell colspan="3">NOES</cell>
            </rowtitle>
            <row>
              <cell>Bedford, F.E.</cell>
              <cell>Bell, T.S.</cell>
              <cell>Bettison, Z.L.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Bignell, L.W.K.</cell>
              <cell>Boyer, B.I.</cell>
              <cell>Brock, G.G.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Brown, M.E. (teller)</cell>
              <cell>Close, S.E.</cell>
              <cell>Cook, N.F.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Gee, J.P.</cell>
              <cell>Hildyard, K.A.</cell>
              <cell>Hughes, E.J.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Koutsantonis, A.</cell>
              <cell>Malinauskas, P.</cell>
              <cell>Michaels, A.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Mullighan, S.C.</cell>
              <cell>Odenwalder, L.K.</cell>
              <cell>Piccolo, A.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Picton, C.J.</cell>
              <cell>Stinson, J.M.</cell>
              <cell>Szakacs, J.K.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Wortley, D.</cell>
              <cell />
              <cell />
            </row>
          </table>
        </text>
      </division>
    </subject>
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