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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2021-11-17" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>House of Assembly</house>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding>
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000540">
      <heading>Question Time</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
      <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000541">
        <heading>Ambulance Ramping</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4841" kind="question">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kaurna</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2021-11-17">
            <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2021-11-17T14:14:37" />
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000542">
          <timeStamp time="2021-11-17T14:14:37" />
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON (Kaurna) (14:14):</by>  Supplementary question to the Premier: why is the Premier telling the house that one of the reasons for ramping increasing by 500 per cent is an increase in hospital presentations when the latest data that his government released shows that there had been a reduction of presentations compared to 2019?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2021-11-17">
            <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2021-11-17T14:14:59" />
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000543">
          <timeStamp time="2021-11-17T14:14:59" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:14):</by>  I would be very pleased—</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000544">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000545">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The leader is called to order. The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000546">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  I would be very pleased for the member for Kaurna to check the <term>Hansard</term>. I was very clear with what I said. I said there was an increase right around the country and there were many reasons for that, and I went through and listed what those—</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000547">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="8354" />
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000548">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Member for Kaurna! The deputy leader! The member for Wright is on a second warning.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000549">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  They are clearly not interested in the answers. They are experts when it comes to health. They, in fact, were the authors of Transforming Health, that fantastic program which supported our state health system so remarkably well—not. The reality is that they don't even mention Transforming Health anymore. All they are interested in doing is firing salvos off against SA Health, which is doing an outstanding job.</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000550">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000551">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000552">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  All we hear from those opposite is the undermining of the excellent health response we have had in South Australia. We have endured a most tumultuous time.</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000553">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000554">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000555">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Many other systems around the world have struggled. In South Australia, I think that most South Australians appreciate just how good our health system is. Of course, there are many opportunities to improve the health system in South Australia and that's why we are currently investing a record amount in the health system in our state. I don't have the statistics directly in front of me, but I seem to recall that when we came to government the expenditure in the health system was just $5.8 billion per year. I think it's now up in excess of $7 billion per year. Last year—</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000556">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000557">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, member for Playford!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000558">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —the Auditor-General, after the spurious comments made in the media by members opposite that we had slashed doctors, slashed nurses and slashed healthcare workers—</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000559">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="8622" />
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000560">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, deputy leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000561">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —brought down his report and clearly showed that there were more than 1,000 additional healthcare workers in the system last year. I think it's better to deal with facts. It's always better to deal with facts. The Auditor-General has done that independent analysis of the facts and there are more people employed in the health system—</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000562">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5387">Mr Brown interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000563">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Playford is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000564">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —and the budget is much greater and of course that is before we announced our COVID-ready significant increases where we will see approximately a further 1,900 people employed in the healthcare sector in South Australia.</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000565">We understand the pressure that our health system is under. Every health system in the country—in fact, every health system in the world—has been tested with the coronavirus. I put it to you, sir, that very few have stood up as well as SA Health has.</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000566">But we always need to continuously improve and that's why this government is investing a record amount of money in terms of the operating budget and a record amount of money in terms of the capital budget, and we will continue to do that, opening additional beds within our emergency department capability across the state, always looking for new models of care which better serve our patients here in South Australia, and making sure that we have the requisite resources in South Australia. Those opposite have been in opposition for almost four years. We are yet to see anything regarding health, apart from carping, complaining, whingeing and whining.</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000567">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000568">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000569">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  That's what they have done.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. Mullighan</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000570">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan:</by>  It won't be a basketball stadium.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000571">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Lee!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000572">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Instead, sir, what you have seen from this government is a commitment to right the wrongs inflicted upon the people of South Australia with Transforming Health, like for example—</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000573">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000574">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000575">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —the closure of the Repat, which broke the hearts of South Australians. Now we go down—</text>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000576">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4846">Ms Hildyard interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000577">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Reynell!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202111170640bda682784662a0000578">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —there and it's a vibrant health community. They closed it. We're expanding it. We're investing more in health. There is more to do.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
</hansard>