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  <date date="2021-09-22" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
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  <proceeding>
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000509">
      <heading>Question Time</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>Data Harvesting</name>
      <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000510">
        <heading>Data Harvesting</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2021-09-22">
            <name>Data Harvesting</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2021-09-22T14:18:39" />
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000511">
          <timeStamp time="2021-09-22T14:18:39" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Leader of the Opposition) (14:18):</by>  I am happy to repeat the question, sir. My question is to the Premier. Was the Premier's office subject to an Ombudsman's investigation into the misuse of data?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2021-09-22">
            <name>Data Harvesting</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2021-09-22T14:18:50" />
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000512">
          <timeStamp time="2021-09-22T14:18:50" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:18):</by>  Sorry, as I was saying—</text>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000513">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000514">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —that's right, quite some time ago—that wasn't something that we were aware of. There was an inquiry by the Privacy Committee. That report was tabled and, of course, I think there was the potential for that to be referred to the Ombudsman.</text>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000515">The Ombudsman appeared before a parliamentary inquiry today. He has subsequently issued a statement clarifying statements that he made today. As part of that clarifying statement, he made it very clear that, firstly, he hadn't informed my office as he had stated in the committee today and, secondly, there were no findings that he found with regard to this matter. What I was saying—and I recall it now—was that at the heart of this issue were allegations by those opposite, repeated in the media, that there was a grand scandal underway where there was data harvesting by the NationBuilder program. The NationBuilder program—</text>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000516">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000517">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000518">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5387">Mr Brown interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000519">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, member for Playford!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000520">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Try to keep some of you in the chamber today. It would be terrible if you all had to leave.</text>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000521">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000522">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Kaurna!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000523">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  The reality is that we used the NationBuilder program when in opposition to distribute our press releases to people who wanted to receive those press releases, mainly the media. On coming into government we continued to use the NationBuilder system to distribute those media releases.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4335" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Odenwalder</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000524">
          <by role="member" id="4335">Mr Odenwalder:</by>  Are you defending this? Are you really defending this?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000525">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Elizabeth!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4335" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Odenwalder</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000526">
          <by role="member" id="4335">Mr Odenwalder:</by>  You are going to defend this here?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000527">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Elizabeth is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000528">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Of course, sir, as you would be more than aware, on coming to government we continued to use the NationBuilder program to distribute those media releases.</text>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000529">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="7578" />
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000530">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Kaurna!</text>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000531">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000532">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for West Torrens is warned for a second time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000533">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  It is quite incredible, the fantasy that goes on in the collective minds of the opposition here in South Australia.</text>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000534">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000535">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Playford is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000536">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  We've heard this before from the opposition. They made outrageous claims against the—</text>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000537">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000538">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000539">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —Keolis Downer contract. That was one of the other great scandals of monumental proportions that the member for West Torrens came in here spouting on about. Of course, there was no issue there whatsoever; in fact, the Ombudsman found it was conducted perfectly in accordance—</text>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000540">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000541">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Wright!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000542">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —with the way it was meant to be conducted—</text>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000543">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5389">Mr Boyer interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000544">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Wright is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000545">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Sir, I just direct those opposite to read the Ombudsman's clarifying publication that he made subsequent to appearing at the parliamentary committee earlier today.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20210922fffcbedf5a7249ea80000546">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Before I call the leader—and I am conscious that I'm playing a bit of catch-up here myself—I call to order the member for Chaffey, I call to order the Minister for Education, I warn the member for Playford, I call to order the member for Kaurna and the member for Lee, and I call to order the Deputy Premier.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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