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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Vaccine Manufacturing Capability</name>
      <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000355">
        <heading>Vaccine Manufacturing Capability</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2021-06-10">
            <name>Vaccine Manufacturing Capability</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2021-06-10T14:19:19" />
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000356">
          <timeStamp time="2021-06-10T14:19:19" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Leader of the Opposition) (14:19):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Has the Premier now met with BioCina chief executive, Ian Wisenberg, as I have, to discuss their local mRNA vaccine manufacturing capability?</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000357">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000358">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, members on my right!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2021-06-10T14:19:34" />
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000359">
          <timeStamp time="2021-06-10T14:19:34" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:19):</by>   Wow! I think that probably the deal is almost pretty much done now. The Leader of the Opposition—the guy who closed the Repat, the guy who downgraded hospitals, the guy who's got no skills with negotiation whatsoever; in fact, I am yet to understand what his skills are. He was a good union boss, apparently; they were his skills.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000360">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000361">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier will resume his seat.</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000362">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000363">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Cheltenham is called to order and the member for Wright is warned. The member for West Torrens on a point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000364">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The two standing orders I raise are 98 and 127. The first one is 98: the Premier wasn't answering the substance of the question at all and instead launched into an attack—</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000365">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000366">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The Minister for Education is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="6048" />
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000367">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The second is 127: the Premier immediately made personal reflections on another member of the house.</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000368">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000369">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, members on my right! I listened carefully to the question. First of all, there's no point of order pursuant to standing order 127, and it has been a matter that has been addressed on a number of occasions already this week.</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000370">In relation to the point of order on standing order 98, the question in its terms sought a comparison in relation to whether a meeting had occurred. It was nonetheless directed primarily to what the Premier had or hadn't done, so I don't uphold the point of order for the time being. The Premier is addressing the question. The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000371">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Thank you very much. You are quite right, sir, the question was all about the contrasting style in terms of negotiation. As soon as the debate became a little bit heated, the real leader of the opposition jumps to his feet to try to defend the current Leader of the Opposition. The reality is they've got nowhere to stand on this issue. Having a meeting is not conducting a complex negotiation. We had been working with BioCina before they even came—</text>
        <page num="6348" />
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000372">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000373">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, the leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000374">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —to Australia. In earlier answers, I made it clear that we have been working—</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000375">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000376">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader is called to order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000377">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —with these people since 2018; 2018 is quite a long way in front of the last couple of weeks—</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000378">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000379">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000380">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —and the Leader of the Opposition—</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000381">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000382">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Playford is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000383">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —has jumped on the bandwagon on this issue. He is all at sea. They have lost the team up there in the dream factory, they have lost the brains trust that was able to quickly tweet down changes to questions that might enable them to be a little bit more nimble, a little bit more flexible in question time.</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000384">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000385">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader will cease interjecting!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000386">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  They have given up the will, but we haven't. On this side of the house we are very keen to make sure that we take all and every single opportunity. There is a lot of money on the table from the federal government, not only with regard to the mRNA vaccine manufacture but also with the modern manufacturing initiative—I think $1.3 billion. These are great opportunities for South Australia.</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000387">We haven't given up on manufacturing. We're doing everything we can to advance manufacturing here in South Australia, like our excellent investment down at Tonsley in the Line Zero project, which is delivering a huge opportunity for South Australian companies to get into the supply chain for those future frigates in South Australia. There is a huge amount of work happening down at Tonsley—</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000388">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5389">Mr Boyer interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000389">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Wright!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000390">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —in manufacturing. I know that the Minister for Innovation and Skills—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5389" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Boyer</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000391">
          <by role="member" id="5389">Mr Boyer:</by>  We watched your mob chase Holden out.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000392">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Wright is warned for a second time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000393">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —had a very important meeting with people with regard to manufacturing last night. Of course, I met with the new federal minister responsible for this area of government expenditure in the last week and a half, and it was good to understand the federal government's interest in making sure that we can get as much manufacturing sovereign capability here in Australia going forward.</text>
        <page num="6349" />
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000394">That is a partnership, and that is something those opposite don't know. They want to talk about the contrasting negotiation skills. One of the things that we have done in big contrast with those opposite—just continuing that theme introduced by the Leader of the Opposition—is to develop skills, a skilled workforce to address those skill deficiencies that we were left by those opposite, and I am very proud to say that we have worked with the federal government. We were the first to sign up to the Skilling Australians program in government. More than $200 million is now committed to apprenticeships, traineeships—modern skills to support manufacturing. We are very interested—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000395">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier will resume his seat. The leader rises on a point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000396">
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS:</by>  Standing order 98, sir. The question was incredibly specific. I was simply asking the Premier whether or not he had met the BioCina chief executive. I would simply ask him to answer the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000397">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader has recited a part of the question. I have addressed a point of order in similar terms. I don't uphold the point of order. The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000398">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  We continue to work and look for every single opportunity out of this global pandemic. The rest of the world is still reeling from the effects. South Australia has more people employed now than we had pre COVID. We've got more job advertisements in South Australia than we had in the history of the state. We've got more young people involved in apprenticeships and traineeships—in fact, more than 37½ thousand people. This gives more evidence to you, sir, and to this house that we will take every single opportunity to advance this state. mRNA manufacturing in Australia is a priority for the government and is a priority for this government here in South Australia.</text>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000399">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202106109bc80f87c4e44a52a0000400">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! Before I call the member for Flinders, I warn the Minister for Trade and Investment, I call to order the Minister for Energy and Mining and I warn the member for West Torrens.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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