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  <date date="2020-10-14" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Gel Blasters</name>
      <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000744">
        <heading>Gel Blasters</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="3533" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. G.G. BROCK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Frome</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-10-14">
            <name>Gel Blasters</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2020-10-14T14:58:33" />
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000745">
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          <by role="member" id="3533">The Hon. G.G. BROCK (Frome) (14:58):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Police. Given that the definition of 'firearms' has remained the same for many years, can the minister advise why it has taken so long for police to decide that gel blasters, which have been available to the public for some years, should be licensed? With your leave and that of the house, sir, I will explain further.</text>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000746">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3533" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. G.G. BROCK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000747">
          <by role="member" id="3533">The Hon. G.G. BROCK:</by>  Recently, SA Police have announced that they consider gel blasters to be a firearm and will be requiring owners and businesses to be licensed. I have been contacted by many gel blaster small business owners, who have pointed out that they have incurred costs, made investment decisions and employed staff in good faith without any suggestion from police that they may need to be licensed. They also point out that this recent decision will force many to close their businesses and to let go many loyal staff with the loss of many jobs.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4840" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. TARZIA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hartley</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Police</name>
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        <startTime time="2020-10-14T14:59:30" />
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000748">
          <timeStamp time="2020-10-14T14:59:30" />
          <by role="member" id="4840">The Hon. V.A. TARZIA (Hartley—Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services) (14:59):</by>  I thank the honourable member for the question. I would invite the honourable member, if he does have people and businesses in his electorate, I make this commitment to the member that I would be more than happy to meet with them and address some of those concerns. I would like to say that obviously, yes, it is true that SAPOL—and this is an operational matter—has declared gel blasters, as the member points out, as a regulated imitation firearm. SAPOL—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000749">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  It took him 30 seconds to say 'operational matter'.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000750">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for West Torrens can leave for 20 minutes under 137A.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4840" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. TARZIA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000751">
          <by role="member" id="4840">The Hon. V.A. TARZIA:</by>  I would prefer if he stays to hear it, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000752">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  That's one way to protect you.</text>
      </talker>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="2996" />
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000753">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member will leave in silence, and when he has left the Minister for Police will have the call.</text>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000754">
          <event>The honourable member for West Torrens having withdrawn from the chamber:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4840" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. TARZIA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000755">
          <by role="member" id="4840">The Hon. V.A. TARZIA:</by>  Sir, I thank you for your protection; you are doing a sterling job over there. Obviously, during this time it's true—as the point has been made by SAPOL—that businesses and also people are encouraged to hand in their gel blasters, register them appropriately or also sell their items to a licensed firearm dealer. I can say from a police point of view, obviously there is a degree of balance that has to be taken into consideration that will allow enthusiasts and also businesses to be able to continue to use and sell gel blasters after obtaining a licence similar to what is a paintball licence and to register their gel blasters.</text>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000756">They obviously must either sell their gel blasters to a firearms licensee, who will be responsible for registering the item, or another option is to an interstate gel blaster firearm trader who is authorised in that state to receive a gel blaster. It might be worth noting what the regulations are in each state in regard to this issue.</text>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000757">In New South Wales, I have been informed that gel blasters have been determined to be an air gun and therefore a category A firearm. In addition, gel blasters that substantially duplicate in appearance a military-style firearm are classified as a prohibited firearm. In the ACT, they are actually not permitted. In Tasmania, they have been classified as an imitation firearm pursuant to the Firearms Act. In WA, they are prohibited, pursuant to section 4 of the Firearms Act.</text>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000758">In Victoria, they are classified as firearms for the purpose of the Firearms Act. In the Northern Territory, I couldn't believe it, they have actually been prohibited pursuant to the Weapons Act—in the Northern Territory, sir. Queensland obviously have no restrictions, but I am sure they will get to them. From a commonwealth point of view, obviously they are certainly controlled in terms of importation of imitation firearms.</text>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000759">I can also advise the house—and I discussed this with the member for Elizabeth, the shadow in this area today; obviously there have been some updates, but I have been given some further updates—that as of this week several hundred gel blasters have actually been surrendered. Apart from that, there are well over a hundred applications for licences and several applications to vary a licence as well. I am also advised that two permits to acquire applications have been submitted of which one has been returned, as it was not correctly completed.</text>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000760">Also, to the member for Frome's point, I know that businesses have engaged with SAPOL, the firearms unit, and I would encourage them to do so. To the member for Frome I make the commitment that I am more than happy to meet with the businesses involved. I do empathise with these businesses, honestly, and I'm sure that from a South Australian police point of view it was not an easy decision to come to.</text>
        <text id="20201014d3d204c69af04f56a0000761">At the end of the day, we would all agree in this place that public safety has to come first, community safety has to come first, but I make a commitment to meet the relevant constituents in the member for Frome's electorate. As I said, it wasn't a decision that was taken lightly, but the ultimate and paramount consideration has to be community safety.</text>
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