House of Assembly Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2) 54 2 Parliament of South Australia House of Assembly published Question Time Train Services Train Services The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS House of Assembly West Torrens Train Services The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens) (14:46): My question is to the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport. What is the saving in the first year of the Keolis Downer contract to the taxpayer? The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly Gibson Minister for Infrastructure and Transport Minister for Recreation Train Services The Hon. C.L. WINGARD (Gibson—Minister for Infrastructure and Transport, Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing) (14:46): Again, I think I have already outlined this answer. It is a 12-year contract, and the contract will be rolled out over that period. I have outlined the savings that we are going to get, the $118 million over the course of the contract. That's a contract we have signed, and we are going to get better services. Of course, built into that contract are KPIs to make sure those services are maintained, but that is how it should be. Those on the other side talk like, 'This has never happened. This has never happened before, the outsourcing of a supplier,' yet they signed similar deals with our bus contracts. Members interjecting: The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Yes, it is hard to believe they have been complaining. Add to that, they signed with Keolis Downer. Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: They signed with Keolis Downer. This is a company that they are criticising on one hand, but they signed contracts with on the other hand. It is really hard to fathom. Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: At the end of the day, there is $118 million over the course of this 12-year contract going back into the pockets of South Australians. Mr Malinauskas House of Assembly Mr Malinauskas: How much in year 1? The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order, the leader! The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I am not going to go into the commercial details of the contract and nor would he if he were in my shoes, and he knows that. That's very mischievous. Again, he knows all about these contracts because they signed plenty of them with our bus contracts when they were in government. Again, our focus here is on delivering better services, and we will do that. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Before I call the member for West Torrens, I warn the Deputy Premier. I call the Premier to order. I call to order the member for Light and I warn the leader.