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  <date date="2020-09-24" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
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  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Public Transport Privatisation</name>
      <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000589">
        <heading>Public Transport Privatisation</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-09-24">
            <name>Public Transport Privatisation</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2020-09-24T14:30:09" />
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000590">
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          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens) (14:30):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Transport and Infrastructure. Is the minister aware of the outcome of the BDO probity investigation into the privatisation process initiated by a complaint by Bombardier? With your leave, sir, and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000591">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000592">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  In a letter to Wendy McMillan from Mr Kyffin Thompson and Ken Patterson, partner and senior manager of BDO Advisory, the probity officers appointed to the process, they write and I quote:</text>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000593">
          <inserted>This review will focus on the matters raised in the media and any others that impact upon the integrity of the process.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000594">I will table this afterwards.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Gibson</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2020-09-24T14:30:47" />
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000595">
          <timeStamp time="2020-09-24T14:30:47" />
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD (Gibson—Minister for Infrastructure and Transport, Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing) (14:30):</by>  I will say it again, but I will say it slowly so the member for West Torrens can understand.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Malinauskas</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000596">
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas:</by>  This is a serious, serious question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000597">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  I understand: it is a serious question and it is going to get a serious answer. Member for West Torrens, if I speak slowly—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000598">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The minister will not respond to interjections, and the interjections on my left will cease. The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000599">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  Thank you, sir. Again I stress the point: I will speak slowly so the member for West Torrens can understand. What we have here is a procurement process—</text>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000600">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000601">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000602">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  —a competitive tender. People put a bid in; those bids are evaluated.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>An honourable member</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000603">
          <by role="office">An honourable member:</by>  You said that.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="2790" />
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000604">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  Exactly—and the member for West Torrens just failed to understand, so I will say it again. There is an independent probity adviser who actually oversees the process.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000605">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  What's the result of the investigation?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000606">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, member for West Torrens!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000607">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  Under the act, they have to provide a written report at the signing of the contract that the Auditor-General sees. The Auditor-General will then assess the probity and the contract and file a report to the parliament. That is the process. That is how it is stated under the procurement act and that is—</text>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000608">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000609">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000610">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  —what will take place.</text>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000611">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200924acdc46a6d0e14a5880000612">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! I call to order the Deputy Premier.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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