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    <name>Bills</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Health Care (Safe Access) Amendment Bill</name>
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        <bill id="r4676">
          <name>Health Care (Safe Access) Amendment Bill</name>
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      <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000072">
        <heading>Health Care (Safe Access) Amendment Bill</heading>
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      <subproceeding>
        <name>Committee Stage</name>
        <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000073">
          <heading>Committee Stage</heading>
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        <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000074">In committee.</text>
        <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000075">(Continued from 22 July 2020.)</text>
        <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000076">Clause 4.</text>
        <talker kind="speech" role="office">
          <name>The Chair</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000077">
            <by role="office">The CHAIR:</by>  For the committee's information, we have amendments to clause 4 in the name of the member for Heysen. When he tabled those amendments, of course, he was the member for Heysen. He is now the Speaker, which adds a layer of complexity to it, so we are trying to sort out what Mr Teague would like to do. I see the Attorney-General on her feet. I gather you are seeking leave to move amendments on behalf of the member for Heysen. Attorney, I suggest you move the first three en bloc to begin with.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="1804">
          <name>The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000078">
            <by role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN:</by>  Yes, I am happy to move the first three en bloc. By leave, on behalf of the member for Heysen I move:</text>
          <text continued="true" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000079">
            <inserted>Amendment No 1 [Teague–1]—</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000080">
            <inserted>Page 3, lines 1 to 3 [clause 4, inserted section 48B, definition of <term>journalist</term>]—Delete the definition</inserted>
          </text>
          <text continued="true" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000081">
            <inserted>Amendment No 2 [Teague–1]—</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000082">
            <inserted>Page 3, lines 4 and 5 [clause 4, inserted section 48B, definition of <term>news medium</term>]—Delete the definition</inserted>
          </text>
          <text continued="true" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000083">
            <inserted>Amendment No 3 [Teague–1]—</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000084">
            <inserted>Page 3, after line 24 [clause 4, inserted section 48B]—Insert:</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000085">
            <item sublevel="2">
              <inserted>
                <term>publish</term> means to disseminate or provide access to the public or a section of the public by any means, including by—</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000086">
            <item sublevel="3">
              <inserted>(a)&amp;#x9;publication in a book, newspaper, magazine or other written publication; or</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000087">
            <item sublevel="3">
              <inserted>(b)&amp;#x9;broadcast by radio or television; or</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000088">
            <item sublevel="3">
              <inserted>(c)&amp;#x9;public exhibition; or</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000089">
            <item sublevel="3">
              <inserted>(d)&amp;#x9;broadcast or electronic communication,</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000090">
            <item sublevel="2">
              <inserted>and <term>publication</term> is to be construed accordingly;</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <page num="2670" />
          <text continued="true" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000091">I indicate that, essentially, this will undo a provision of the member for Badcoe in her aspect of this bill in another place, which she had at least endorsed. It was an attempt, I think, to clarify the protection of journalists in their general occupation to news mediums to be protected against prosecution for publishing or disseminating material when they might be reporting on an incident in relation to the behaviour that is sought to be prohibited. There is proposed to be removal of the definitions in relation to the persons who have been carved out to have special protection, and to insert a new definition of 'publish', as follows:</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000092">
            <inserted>publish means to disseminate or provide access to the public or a section of the public by any means, including by—</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000093">
            <inserted>(a)&amp;#x9;publication in a book, newspaper, magazine or other written publication; or</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000094">
            <inserted>(b)&amp;#x9;broadcast by radio or television; or</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000095">
            <inserted>(c)&amp;#x9;public exhibition, or</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000096">
            <inserted>(d)&amp;#x9;broadcast or electronic communication,</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000097">
            <inserted>and publication is to be construed accordingly.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text continued="true" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000098">The attempt was understandable. Earlier in this debate I canvassed it. It seems, though, on balance that it is a clumsy way to have dealt with the matter and will probably only lead to further complications, so I move amendments Nos 1, 2 and 3 standing in the name of Mr Teague in the interests of ensuring that we have no frustration.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker kind="speech" role="office">
          <name>The Chair</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000099">
            <by role="office">The CHAIR:</by>  Without any further comments or questions, I will put the amendments. The question before the Chair is that amendments Nos 1, 2 and 3, which have been moved by the Attorney-General on behalf of the member for Heysen, be agreed to. All those in favour say aye, against say no. The ayes have it.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4837">
          <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000100">
            <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  Divide!</text>
        </talker>
        <talker kind="speech" role="office">
          <name>The Chair</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000101">
            <by role="office">The CHAIR:</by>  A division has been called for, ring the bells.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000102">
            <event>While the division was being held:</event>
          </text>
        </talker>
        <talker kind="speech" role="office">
          <name>The Chair</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000103">
            <by role="office">The CHAIR:</by>  There being a division called for on the Health Care (Safe Access) Amendment Bill amendments to clause 4 and there being one and one alone dissenting voice, the ayes have it.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000104">Amendments thus carried.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4837">
          <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000105">
            <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  I move:</text>
          <text continued="true" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000106">
            <inserted>Amendment No 1 [Speirs–1]—</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000107">
            <inserted>Page 3, after line 34 [clause 4, inserted section 48C(2)]—Insert:</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000108">
            <item sublevel="2">
              <inserted>or</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000109">
            <item sublevel="2">
              <inserted>(c)&amp;#x9;engaging in silent prayer within a health access zone.</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text continued="true" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000110">I will not speak at particular length on this amendment. I have made it clear in the house in my earlier remarks why I believe, for a range of reasons, particularly around freedom of expression, that I need to move this amendment in my name.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000111">The committee divided on the amendment:</text>
        </talker>
        <division>
          <page num="2671" />
          <text style="text-align: center;" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000112">Ayes&amp;#x9;20</text>
          <text style="text-align: center;" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000113">Noes&amp;#x9;24</text>
          <text style="text-align: center;" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000114">Majority&amp;#x9;4</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000115">
            <table>
              <rowtitle>
                <cell colspan="3">AYES</cell>
              </rowtitle>
              <row>
                <cell>Brown, M.E.</cell>
                <cell>Cowdrey, M.J.</cell>
                <cell>Cregan, D.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Duluk, S.</cell>
                <cell>Ellis, F.J.</cell>
                <cell>Harvey, R.M.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Knoll, S.K.</cell>
                <cell>Koutsantonis, A.</cell>
                <cell>Luethen, P.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Murray, S.</cell>
                <cell>Patterson, S.J.R.</cell>
                <cell>Pederick, A.S.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Piccolo, A.</cell>
                <cell>Power, C.</cell>
                <cell>Sanderson, R.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Speirs, D.J. (teller)</cell>
                <cell>Tarzia, V.A.</cell>
                <cell>van Holst Pellekaan, D.C.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Whetstone, T.J.</cell>
                <cell>Wingard, C.L.</cell>
                <cell />
              </row>
            </table>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000116">
            <table>
              <rowtitle>
                <cell colspan="3">NOES</cell>
              </rowtitle>
              <row>
                <cell>Basham, D.K.B.</cell>
                <cell>Bedford, F.E.</cell>
                <cell>Bell, T.S.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Bettison, Z.L.</cell>
                <cell>Bignell, L.W.K.</cell>
                <cell>Boyer, B.I.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Brock, G.G.</cell>
                <cell>Chapman, V.A.</cell>
                <cell>Close, S.E.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Cook, N.F. (teller)</cell>
                <cell>Gardner, J.A.W.</cell>
                <cell>Hildyard, K.A.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Malinauskas, P.</cell>
                <cell>Marshall, S.S.</cell>
                <cell>McBride, N.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Michaels, A.</cell>
                <cell>Mullighan, S.C.</cell>
                <cell>Odenwalder, L.K.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Picton, C.J.</cell>
                <cell>Pisoni, D.G.</cell>
                <cell>Stinson, J.M.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Szakacs, J.K.</cell>
                <cell>Teague, J.B.</cell>
                <cell>Wortley, D.</cell>
              </row>
            </table>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000117">Amendment thus negatived.</text>
        </division>
        <talker role="member" id="1804">
          <name>The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000118">
            <by role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN:</by>  By leave, on behalf of the member for Heysen, I move:</text>
          <text continued="true" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000119">
            <inserted>Amendment No 4 [Teague–1]—</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000120">
            <inserted>Page 4, lines 8 to 11 [clause 4, inserted section 48D(2)(c)]—Delete paragraph (c)</inserted>
          </text>
          <text continued="true" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000121">
            <inserted>Amendment No 5 [Teague–1]—</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000122">
            <inserted>Page 4, lines 37 to 40 [clause 4, inserted section 48E(3)(d)]—Delete paragraph (d)</inserted>
          </text>
          <text continued="true" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000123">
            <inserted>Amendment No 6 [Teague–1]—</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000124">
            <inserted>Page 5, after line 8—Insert:</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000125">
            <inserted>48F—Offence to publish or distribute recording</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000126">
            <item sublevel="2">
              <inserted>A person must not, without the consent of the other person, publish or distribute a recording of a person approaching, entering or leaving protected premises if the recording contains information that—</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000127">
            <item sublevel="3">
              <inserted>(a)&amp;#x9;identifies, or is likely to lead to the identification of, the other person; and</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000128">
            <item sublevel="3">
              <inserted>(b)&amp;#x9;identifies, or is likely to lead to the identification of, the other person as having accessed protected premises.</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000129">
            <item sublevel="2">
              <inserted>Maximum penalty: $10,000.</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text continued="true" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000130">I indicate that these amendments are consequential to the stunningly successful amendments Nos 1, 2 and 3. They are consequential upon the same.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000131">Amendments carried; clause as amended passed.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000132">Title passed.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000133">Bill reported with amendment.</text>
        </talker>
      </subproceeding>
      <subproceeding>
        <name>Third Reading</name>
        <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000134">
          <heading>Third Reading</heading>
        </text>
        <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="speech">
          <name>Ms COOK</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <electorate id="">Hurtle Vale</electorate>
          <startTime time="2020-09-23T11:13:02" />
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000135">
            <timeStamp time="2020-09-23T11:13:02" />
            <by role="member" id="4978">Ms COOK (Hurtle Vale) (11:13):</by>  I move:</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000136">
            <inserted>That this bill be now read a third time.</inserted>
          </text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5377" kind="speech">
          <name>Mr COWDREY</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <electorate id="">Colton</electorate>
          <startTime time="2020-09-23T11:13:31" />
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000137">
            <timeStamp time="2020-09-23T11:13:31" />
            <by role="member" id="5377">Mr COWDREY (Colton) (11:13):</by>  I rise today to speak in support of this bill at the third reading. I take this opportunity to speak briefly. Given that this is a matter of conscience and one I feel important, I will try to best outline the reasoning behind my position for the benefit of my community. It is also important to note that this issue, the subject matter of this bill, does not address the broader issue of abortion.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000138">The crux of this bill is seeking to allow women to access a legally permissible procedure without undue stress or harm. I took the opportunity to participate at the committee stage of this debate to ask questions on behalf of members of my community and to provide clarity around what would or would not be permissible behaviour within the zone under this bill. I voted in favour of the amendment put forward to this house to explicitly allow silent prayer.</text>
          <page num="2672" />
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000139">Ultimately, I see no issue with people participating in silent prayer on the provision that they are not adorned in messaging, holding up placards, interacting with women as they enter the premises or the like.  would interpret those sorts of behaviours as falling under the prohibited behaviour provision of the bill, as activities that could be construed as intimidation or harassment. Ultimately, this amendment was not successful. However, I rely on the Attorney's view that silent prayer in itself could not be interpreted as prohibited behaviour in any case.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000140">To paraphrase, the bill provides a restriction on communication in relation to abortion that is reasonably likely to cause distress or anxiety within close proximity to a facility. This is an important distinction that I believe strikes the right balance. It prevents women accessing abortions from being in any way hassled but also does not prohibit, for example, a person praying silently.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000141">Ultimately, my view on the bill is similar to those already expressed by other members of this house. I do believe that the bill strikes the right balance. The bill maintains the right of political communication and does not prevent citizens expressing their political view on the issue of abortion on the steps of parliament, where the use of placards frequently occurs, or in fact 151 metres from a facility.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000142">It does not prevent silent prayer within a zone. However, importantly, it does allow women to access a legally permissible service without fear of undue stress or anxiety, respecting the dignity and the moral choice an individual is free to make. I believe this is a reasonable and balanced view and one that my community supports.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="speech">
          <name>Ms COOK</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <electorate id="">Hurtle Vale</electorate>
          <startTime time="2020-09-23T11:16:10" />
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000143">
            <timeStamp time="2020-09-23T11:16:10" />
            <by role="member" id="4978">Ms COOK (Hurtle Vale) (11:16):</by>  I thank all members for their contribution. Whether I agree with them or not, this is a democracy and we are all entitled to bring representations, and so we should, from our community, as diverse as those opinions are. I thank everyone for their contribution. I thank members for their thoughtful amendments and for the engagement that we have had during the process.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000144">Today, we have made the world a much safer place in our community, a much more dignified place for those who seek to access a medical health procedure, sometimes during one of the most traumatic times of their life. Nobody should be exposed to harassment or intimidation at that point. I am very grateful to this chamber for passing this legislation.</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000145">The house divided on the third reading:</text>
        </talker>
        <division>
          <text style="text-align: center;" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000146">Ayes&amp;#x9;34</text>
          <text style="text-align: center;" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000147">Noes&amp;#x9;9</text>
          <text style="text-align: center;" id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000148">Majority&amp;#x9;25</text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000149">
            <table>
              <rowtitle>
                <cell colspan="3">AYES</cell>
              </rowtitle>
              <row>
                <cell>Basham, D.K.B.</cell>
                <cell>Bedford, F.E.</cell>
                <cell>Bettison, Z.L.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Bignell, L.W.K.</cell>
                <cell>Boyer, B.I.</cell>
                <cell>Brock, G.G.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Brown, M.E.</cell>
                <cell>Chapman, V.A.</cell>
                <cell>Close, S.E.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Cook, N.F. (teller)</cell>
                <cell>Cowdrey, M.J.</cell>
                <cell>Cregan, D.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Gardner, J.A.W.</cell>
                <cell>Harvey, R.M.</cell>
                <cell>Hildyard, K.A.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Luethen, P.</cell>
                <cell>Malinauskas, P.</cell>
                <cell>Marshall, S.S.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>McBride, N.</cell>
                <cell>Michaels, A.</cell>
                <cell>Mullighan, S.C.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Odenwalder, L.K.</cell>
                <cell>Piccolo, A.</cell>
                <cell>Picton, C.J.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Pisoni, D.G.</cell>
                <cell>Power, C.</cell>
                <cell>Sanderson, R.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Stinson, J.M.</cell>
                <cell>Szakacs, J.K.</cell>
                <cell>Treloar, P.A.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>van Holst Pellekaan, D.C.</cell>
                <cell>Whetstone, T.J.</cell>
                <cell>Wingard, C.L.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Wortley, D.</cell>
                <cell />
                <cell />
              </row>
            </table>
          </text>
          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000150">
            <table>
              <rowtitle>
                <cell colspan="3">NOES</cell>
              </rowtitle>
              <row>
                <cell>Duluk, S.</cell>
                <cell>Ellis, F.J.</cell>
                <cell>Knoll, S.K.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Koutsantonis, A.</cell>
                <cell>Murray, S.</cell>
                <cell>Patterson, S.J.R.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Pederick, A.S.</cell>
                <cell>Speirs, D.J. (teller)</cell>
                <cell>Tarzia, V.A.</cell>
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          <text id="20200923dcada95cb64e4366b0000151">Third reading thus carried; bill passed.</text>
        </division>
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  </proceeding>
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