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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2020-07-22" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Members, Accommodation Allowances</name>
      <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000502">
        <heading>Members, Accommodation Allowances</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-07-22">
            <name>Members, Accommodation Allowances</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-07-22T14:26:30" />
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000503">
          <timeStamp time="2020-07-22T14:26:30" />
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens) (14:26):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Has the Premier cautioned and reprimanded his ministers for their conduct?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-07-22">
            <name>Members, Accommodation Allowances</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-07-22T14:26:41" />
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000504">
          <timeStamp time="2020-07-22T14:26:41" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:26):</by>  I made it very clear to every single member in my team, whether they be in this house or whether they be in the other place, that they are responsible for any allowances which they claim and the accuracy of those. I asked every member of my team not only to look at what had happened in the last month or three months or six months or since we came to government—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Malinauskas</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000505">
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas:</by>  Yes, but what if they did the wrong thing?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000506">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000507">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —but to look over the last 10 years. This was the standard which we set. Members have done a huge amount of work to go through all of those, to check them against their diary and, if there were any administrative errors, to immediately identify those, report them to the Clerk, and immediately rectify that situation.</text>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000508">I can't speak for what has happened with any direction from the Leader of the Opposition to members in the ALP both past or present, or other members of this parliament, whether they have gone through and looked at every single one of their transactions over a 10-year period, but what I can say is that on my side I have made it very clear: members are responsible—</text>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000509">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000510">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000511">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —for the accuracy of those applications. We have a responsibility to every member of the public—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. Mullighan</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000512">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan:</by>  Apparently they are not responsible.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000513">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Lee!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000514">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —to make sure that those applications for moneys from the public are done so in strict accordance with the guidelines.</text>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000515">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4622">Dr Close interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="2150" />
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000516">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Deputy leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000517">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  It is true that there have been some administrative errors over the last 10 years. We are talking about tens of thousands of transactions which have needed to be checked, dates for members that have existed in this place for the last 10 years, and there have been errors and they have been identified.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5387" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Brown</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000518">
          <by role="member" id="5387">Mr Brown:</by>  And what's happened to them? Nothing.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000519">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Playford!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000520">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  What we don't know at this stage is whether there are any errors—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. Mullighan</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000521">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan:</by>  They had to attend the birth of Jesus.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000522">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —on the accounts of any members of the Australian Labor Party.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000523">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee can leave for 20 minutes.</text>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000524">
          <event>The honourable member for Lee having withdrawn from the chamber:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000525">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  We have heard absolutely nothing from the Leader of the Opposition with regard to what threshold he has set, what expectation he has set for his members. He has not made a public statement about his members. He has not made any public statement whatsoever.</text>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000526">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000527">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Members on my left, with all respect, I am not going to tolerate that level of interjection today, so if it continues members will be departing the chamber. We've got the question; I would like to hear the Premier's answer, and then I will come back to those on my left. Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000528">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Thank you, sir. I have not heard any public statement from the Leader of the Opposition whatsoever requiring his members to go back and check every single one of their transactions. I'm not sure whether I just overheard something then—I will check <term>Hansard</term>—but the reality is, we have made that expectation on this—</text>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000529">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000530">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000531">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —side of the parliament. More than that, more than going backwards for 10 years—</text>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000532">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5376">Ms Stinson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000533">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Badcoe!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000534">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —what we have done on this side of the chamber is ensure that going forward there is absolute scrutiny on this issue with monthly publication of information. More than that—</text>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000535">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000536">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2020072212b41a0b676440f590000537">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —we have also, as a government, written to the Auditor-General to have far greater scrutiny of this issue going forward. In fact, we have even suggested that maybe it is time to have random audits on individual members. We do this because we need to assure the people of South Australia that we have tightened up the arrangements that existed for decades and decades, certainly over the full 16 years of the previous government. We have tightened up those arrangements going forward.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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