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  <date date="2020-06-30" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Public Transport Privatisation</name>
      <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000718">
        <heading>Public Transport Privatisation</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2020-06-30">
            <name>Public Transport Privatisation</name>
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        <startTime time="2020-06-30T15:35:10" />
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000719">
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          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Leader of the Opposition) (15:35):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Will the Premier now listen to community concerns and backflip on his plans to privatise our train and tram network?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Schubert</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Planning</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2020-06-30">
            <name>Public Transport Privatisation</name>
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        <startTime time="2020-06-30T15:35:21" />
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000720">
          <timeStamp time="2020-06-30T15:35:21" />
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL (Schubert—Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Local Government, Minister for Planning) (15:35):</by>  I thank the Leader of the Opposition—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000722">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, member for Giles!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000723">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —for his question.</text>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000724">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000725">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, member for Ramsay!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000726">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  The answer to that question is no, and the reason it is no is that, especially in relation to—</text>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000727">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4841">Mr Picton interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000728">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Kaurna!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000729">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —tram services here in South Australia, that procurement has closed. Torrens Connect—I think that's the company, that's the iteration we call it—is undertaking those services on behalf of the South Australian taxpayer. The answer to this question is that the South Australian public transport user doesn't really mind who pays the driver; they just want to make sure that the service is what it is.</text>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000730">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000731">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! The member for Kaurna is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000732">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  The way I know this to be true, and the way I know that members opposite know that it's true—</text>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000733">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000734">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000735">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —is because it's what they did with the buses for 16 years. They had opportunities—</text>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000736">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000737">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Hammond!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000738">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —three or four times whilst in government to in-source operations—</text>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000739">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="1782" />
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000740">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000741">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —but did they? No, because they know that—</text>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000742">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5571">Mr Szakacs interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000743">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Cheltenham!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000744">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —outsourcing of public transport services—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000745">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000746">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order: the point of order is for debate?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000747">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Yes, sir, thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000748">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have allowed some compare and contrast to a point. Minister, I have given you a little bit of time to warm up, so I ask you to come back to the substance of the question, but could the interjections cease so that I can hear the minister's answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006300c4705f882e546a590000749">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  This is another case of, 'Do as we say, not as we did.' Again, I don't think that this government or the South Australian public are going to stomach that kind of hypocrisy. More than that, what I would like to know is how much money is the opposition going to have to pay, if they were ever to grace these benches, in undoing those contracts, and how much money they have put aside in their future costing document for the next election for that purpose.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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