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  <date date="2020-06-18" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
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  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Pearce, Ms D.A.</name>
      <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000467">
        <heading>Pearce, Ms D.A.</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="question">
        <name>Ms COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hurtle Vale</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-06-18">
            <name>Pearce, Ms D.A.</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2020-06-18T14:39:24" />
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000468">
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          <by role="member" id="4978">Ms COOK (Hurtle Vale) (14:39):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Can the Premier assure the house that a statement given to the media by the government last night was actually a statement from the family of Debbie Pearce? With your leave and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000469">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Ms COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000470">
          <by role="member" id="4978">Ms COOK:</by>  The government last night released a statement to the media that it claims was from the family of Debbie Pearce, which stated, and I quote:</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000471">
          <inserted>We are grateful for the care that our sister received. We have no concerns with staff at the home and do not want them to be blamed for her death. We do not wish for this to be a matter of media interest.</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Bragg</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Attorney-General</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <startTime time="2020-06-18T14:40:05" />
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000472">
          <timeStamp time="2020-06-18T14:40:05" />
          <by role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN (Bragg—Deputy Premier, Attorney-General) (14:40):</by>  I thank the member for this question because she has raised a very important matter in this whole sorry saga commenced by her yesterday. As the member would know, if I can just deal with this very specifically, information that might be given to the media which they choose to publish obviously is a matter for them to confirm about their source. We have special laws, actually, in South Australia, the member might be aware, that protect journalists in relation to that.</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000473">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000474">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000475">
          <by role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN:</by>  Nevertheless, it was brought to the attention of the parliament yesterday, purportedly 16 days after what the member for Hurtle Vale considered to be shocking revelations of serious allegations from her own material that she published in her press release with attached emails that she received on 1 June. She saw these as so shocking, as so serious, that she would wait 16 days to even raise it in parliament—</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000476">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000477">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! I am listening to the Attorney-General.</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000478">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339">The Hon. T.J. Whetstone interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000479">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Minister for Primary Industries, please!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000480">
          <by role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN:</by>  —let alone take up those matters. So it didn't surprise me at all that in fact the media released a statement by the family, which has been read out. I don't need to repeat it, but what I will say is this: I think the member for Hurtle Vale does need to account to this parliament for why she would take 16 days in relation to alleged shocking revelations that she found.</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000481">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000482">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000483">
          <by role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN:</by>  I think it's timely that we all be reminded, as members of parliament, that we are public officers under the Public Interest Disclosure Act. We have legal obligations to report matters to various authorities, including but not limited to the Office for Public Integrity.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000484">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  Say that outside, Vickie.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000485">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for West Torrens!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000486">
          <by role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN:</by>  It's a timely reminder. The member decided to do nothing about this for 16 days—</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000487">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="1698" />
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000488">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000489">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4841">Mr Picton interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000490">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Kaurna is on two warnings.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000491">
          <by role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN:</by>  —in asking a question in the parliament, for that to occur. So I think she does need to account to this parliament, whether there was anyone—</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000492">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5571">Mr Szakacs interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000493">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Cheltenham!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000494">
          <by role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN:</by>  —who had decided that this was a lower priority than bus routes and the like, and that be considered.</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000495">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000496">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000497">
          <by role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. CHAPMAN:</by>  But I did indicate to the parliament yesterday that I would make an inquiry of my own department about whether the person in question had been the recipient of services of agencies under my responsibility. I can confirm that she was not under the guardianship of the state, which, as the member and I am sure others would be aware, is an area of responsibility for the Office of the Public Advocate. She was, apparently, a client of the Public Trustee; I am not sure in what form. She may have had her will done there or she may have had an account. I don't have the detail of that at this point.</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000498">I don't have any particulars as to whether the Coroner has or is still to be seized of any inquiry other than the fact that, under the Coroners Act, the Coroner is obliged to consider certain matters, including if someone dies in a hospital and in certain other circumstances but, for the purposes of this issue, in that circumstance. What I am aware of, and I think this issue was outlined in detail in the Legislative Council yesterday by the minister, is that there is a critical incident process, and it has been undertaken and it is still continuing.</text>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000499">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202006185579762ca5ee40eeb0000500">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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