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  <date date="2020-05-14" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Economic Stimulus Package</name>
      <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000369">
        <heading>Economic Stimulus Package</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-05-14">
            <name>Economic Stimulus Package</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-05-14T14:28:47" />
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000370">
          <timeStamp time="2020-05-14T14:28:47" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Leader of the Opposition) (14:28):</by>  My question is to the Premier. What is the point of the Premier announcing an economic stimulus package first when he is the last to spend it? When will his words start to turn into actions?</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000371">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000372">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  That question definitely contained argument, so I am going to uphold it. Because it is the Leader of the Opposition, I am going to give him one opportunity to rephrase or ask another question and then we are moving to the member for Heysen.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000373">
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS:</by>  Thanks, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Premier. When it comes to stimulus, when will the Premier's words actually translate to actions for jobs in this state?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2020-05-14T14:29:26" />
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000374">
          <timeStamp time="2020-05-14T14:29:26" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:29):</by>  I thank the Leader of the Opposition for his question. When you are beginning a project like a $120 million upgrade to roads, although the construction work on the road doesn't begin, in fact a lot of the design work has already begun.</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000375">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000376">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Premier, be seated for one moment.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000377">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  I don't know why the Leader of the Opposition is constantly so angry.</text>
        <page num="1224" />
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000378">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000379">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier, be seated for one moment. The member for West Torrens is warned for a second and final time, and if this continues he will be leaving. It has been a while since a minister has been ejected, but if I have to restore order and do so today I will eject one.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000380">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  I am not quite sure why the leader is so—</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000381">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000382">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000383">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —angry today. It does seem out of character.</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000384">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000385">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000386">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Often he is quite placid. Now, all of a sudden, he is quite aggressive. I don't know whether there has been a caucus meeting, whether they might have all workshopped that you need to stand up and be a bit tougher. Maybe they did a bit of research saying that Kouts can't come forward any more, that's not acceptable to the people of South Australia, the Leader of the Opposition has got to person up.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000387">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier will be seated; the point of order is for debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000388">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The Premier is mocking your earlier ruling.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000389">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I will be the judge of that. I believe he is debating. I ask the Premier to come back to the substance of the question or conclude his answer.</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000390">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000391">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee is on two warnings. The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000392">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  It was a broad question, as you would be aware—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000393">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, open ended.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000394">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —and in some ways a provocative question but, nevertheless, one that I am very, very keen to answer once—</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000395">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000396">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000397">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —Mr Angry has calmed down over there today. The reality is that there is plenty of expenditure occurring under this government with stimulus and plenty more which is planned, and that's what the people of South Australia want: a plan from a health perspective and a plan from an economic perspective. I thought one of the things that I would do would be to compare and contrast our response to this global crisis with the previous government's response to the GFC. I thought it was quite instructive, and I think it is something that you, sir, and the people of South Australia, should be aware of. We know there was a very serious economic crisis going back to the GFC. So what was the former government's response?</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000398">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000399">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee can leave for the remainder of question time under 137A.</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000400">
          <term>The honourable member for Lee having withdrawn from the chamber:</term>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000401">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  It is interesting that that member in particular would be ejected.</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000402">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000403">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000404">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Maybe he wouldn't want to hear because he was working for the treasurer at the time of GFC. The government's response at the time—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="1225" />
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000405">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000406">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order, Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000407">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —was not to maintain—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000408">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier, please be seated for one moment. The point of order is for debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000409">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  And, sir, it is disorderly to the house to name members who are not present.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000410">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, he is beginning to move that way. I am going to respectfully ask the—</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000411">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000412">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Is the Minister for Innovation confused? It was debate, I am upholding it and I would ask the Premier to come back to the substance of the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000413">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  The substance of the question was the alacrity with which this government is responding to a global crisis, which I have outlined with a $1 billion—a thousand thousands—response plus, and I was comparing and contrasting that with the previous government because, unbelievably, we have had some criticism.</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000414">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000415">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000416">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Well, actually 10,000 thousands, I think. But, anyway, the gist of this one goes like this: after the GFC, the previous government decided to sack thousands of public servants, not good for employment. Then they decided to postpone or cancel projects in South Australia. They were cancelling hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars worth of capital projects and then they completely eliminated the project with regard to the—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000417">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000418">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —prisons, and we then paid tens of millions of dollars in penalties.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000419">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier, be seated. The point of order is for debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000420">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Yes, sir, and I am worried about the Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000421">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I uphold the point of order and I ask the Premier to come back to the substance of the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000422">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Unlike the previous government, we haven't sacked thousands of public servants, we haven't postponed projects and we haven't cancelled projects, making the taxpayers of South Australia pay massive penalties to the very people they awarded contracts to that they cancelled. More than that, I took a look because I heard the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Lee come out and say we should completely wipe out any increases in fees, taxes and charges.</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000423">I thought, 'Well, it was 1.9 per cent and there are people who are employed who are going to continue to make taxes and pay taxes during this period of time,' but I thought, 'Let's just have a look at what happened in the GFC.' Did they wipe it out completely? 4.2 per cent—that's what they did during this. I am happy to put my response up side by side any day of the week.</text>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000424">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202005141f37aeaa774e4f4880000425">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Terms like 'Mr Angry' and 'Peanut' are not helpful, and if I hear anything like that I may be asking members to withdraw them. I am just putting members on notice. Let's dial the temperature down a bit.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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