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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Women's and Children's Hospital</name>
      <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000325">
        <heading>Women's and Children's Hospital</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2020-02-20">
            <name>Women's and Children's Hospital</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2020-02-20T14:14:22" />
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000326">
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          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Leader of the Opposition) (14:14):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Did the Premier become aware of a letter from 215 doctors regarding the women's and kids' hospital before or after the report in <term>The Advertiser</term> this morning?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-02-20">
            <name>Women's and Children's Hospital</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-02-20T14:14:37" />
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000327">
          <timeStamp time="2020-02-20T14:14:37" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:14):</by>  My understanding is that the health minister has been dealing with this for quite some time. In fact, my understanding is that the health minister—</text>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000328">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000329">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Wright!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000330">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —met with representatives—</text>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000331">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="283" />
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000332">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000333">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  My understanding is that the health minister met with people from the medical staff society, SASMOA—</text>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000334">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000335">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000336">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —and the CEO and the board chair of the Women's and Children's Health Network on 28 January—</text>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000337">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000338">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:  Order!</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000339">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —to discuss this matter, and a range of issues were discussed at that meeting.</text>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000340">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000341">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Members on my left, I ask that these interjections cease because I am trying to listen to the Premier's answer. Before too long, I will probably get a point of order about debate or something similar and it is very hard to adjudicate when I can't hear the answer. Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000342">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  As I said, I am aware that the health minister met with representatives at the hospital on 28 January this year to progress issues that have been raised but, as I outlined earlier to the house, I am satisfied that, despite the fact we inherited some real complexities across the health sector in South Australia when we came to government, we have been making progress, especially at the Women's and Children's Hospital. One of the key issues that we discussed at the meeting on 28 January, and in all of our meetings, quite frankly, with clinicians across South Australia but in particular at the Women's and Children's Hospital—</text>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000343">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000344">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000345">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  One of the key things that we are discussing with the clinicians at the Women's and Children's Hospital is the design of the new hospital. You might ask the question next—who knows—why are you dealing with the clinicians and talking to them about the design of the new hospital. That is because we know the consequences—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Malinauskas</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000346">
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas:</by>  Are you in charge of anything?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000347">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000348">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —of leaving clinicians out of the design of a new hospital because that is exactly and precisely what happened with the new Royal Adelaide Hospital, with very significant flaws in terms of the consultation with the clinicians in South Australia—very, very serious outcomes because of that—and we don't want that to occur. We are very proud of the fact that we have agreed with the clinicians that they need to have a co-located, new, state-of-the-art Women's and Children's Hospital in line with national and international best practice. This was a commitment that the previous government made. In fact, it should have already been underway. They made that commitment, and I think there was a glossy brochure—</text>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000349">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000350">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000351">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —that was flying through. There was probably a very expensive advertising campaign.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. Knoll</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000352">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. Knoll:</by>  There was a comms plan.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000353">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  There was a comms plan.</text>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000354">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="284" />
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000355">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000356">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  It is almost like—</text>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000357">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000358">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000359">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  They probably learnt from the Royal Adelaide Hospital not to name it first before they actually spoke to a clinician.</text>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000360">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000361">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000362">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  That was a problem. That was a problem with the new Royal Adelaide Hospital. What an embarrassing time for the previous government when, after calling it the Marjorie Jackson-Nelson hospital or as they often said 'The Marj', Marjorie Jackson-Nelson herself said, 'Please, can I take back the offer to have that hospital named after me?' So we're listening to clinicians. We're meeting with the clinicians. The Minister for Health and Wellbeing met with clinicians on 28 January. We're taking their concerns very seriously. We're putting more money into the budget because we want to actually have a much better—</text>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000363">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000364">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20200220b0363e7c57b34aac80000365">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —health system in South Australia and I am satisfied that the Minister for Health and Wellbeing is delivering that. He is working very diligently to clean up the mess, and I might say not just within the Women's and Children's Health Network but right across the LHNs in South Australia.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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