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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Desalination Plant</name>
      <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000753">
        <heading>Desalination Plant</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" kind="question">
        <name>Dr CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2019-12-04">
            <name>Desalination Plant</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2019-12-04T14:59:40" />
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000754">
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          <by role="member" id="4622">Dr CLOSE (Port Adelaide—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (14:59):</by>  My question is again to the Minister for Environment and Water. Will the minister guarantee that he won't allow the Desalination Plant to be used to substitute for any of the 450 gigalitres of environment water?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Black</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Environment and Water</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-12-04">
            <name>Desalination Plant</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-12-04T14:59:53" />
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000755">
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          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS (Black—Minister for Environment and Water) (14:59):</by>  Again, I thank the deputy leader for her question. It is unlikely that the Desalination Plant would be suitable for an offset to Murray-Darling water from an environmental point of view.</text>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000756">We have said that of course we have that asset sitting down on the cliffs at Port Stanvac, and that asset can be used for the purpose of standing shoulder to shoulder with the drought-affected farmers across this nation, and that is an agreement that the state government has struck with our federal counterparts with agreement from ministerial council ministers. We will certainly not be looking to have the Desalination Plant used as an offset to Murray-Darling water under the 450. We said, though, at the ministerial council on 14 December 2018—</text>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000757">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5389">Mr Boyer interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000758">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, member for Wright!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000759">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  —that as a matter of goodwill we would undertake a study that would look at the complexities of using the Desalination Plant as a potential 450 project on a temporary or long-term basis. That statement, that commitment to the ministerial council, has been in the public domain for quite some time. We said that we would do that, but we also said that we would never do it in a way that would impact South Australia negatively, whether that is financially, socially or environmentally. I have said regularly that I was very, very cautious about using the Desalination Plant as an environmental offset, or a 450 gigalitre project. It is my feeling that that—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Malinauskas</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000760">
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas:</by>  Why not rule it out?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000761">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  Of course it would be so easy to rule it out, but we have been going through a process. It would be completely inappropriate to rule it out because we have been going through a process—</text>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000762">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="8995" />
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000763">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  Listen to them shouting—because when it comes to the River Murray it's all about the politics, isn't it? It's all about the noise. It's all about the politics, the games, the slogans, the 'I heart the Murray'. No, what we care about on this side of politics is sustaining that river for our irrigators—</text>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000764">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000765">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000766">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  —sustaining it for the communities at the Lower Lakes and the Coorong. Noise, noise, noise. They don't give two hoots about the Riverland. They don't give two hoots. They care about their cheap five-second sound bite on Channel 7 news. They care about the social media post.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000767">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  There is a point of order, minister. One moment. I ask the—</text>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000768">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000769">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000770">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5571">Mr Szakacs interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000771">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Cheltenham, be quiet. I ask for the interjections to cease, and the provocation and the rebuttal of the provocation as well. Member for Kaurna, for debate?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000772">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  Debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000773">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I uphold the point of order. The minister has the call. I would like to hear his answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000774">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  Thank you, Deputy Speaker—Mr Speaker—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Picton</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000775">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr Picton:</by>  The Speaker.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000776">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  As I have said many times, I do not need the member for Kaurna's tutelage in any way in this place—in no way whatsoever. And with the member for West Torrens out of the chamber, Mr Speaker, we get the protégé coming in behind him, don't we?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000777">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Minister, do not reflect on the whereabouts of members.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000778">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  Anyway, back to the question, the very important question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000779">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Come back to the question, or I will sit you down. I said, 'If you don't, I will sit you down.'</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000780">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  I would like to wrap up by emphasising what an important period it is for the Murray-Darling Basin.</text>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000781">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000782">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000783">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  We are making it very clear to other states that South Australia will not be trodden over on this. We have a desalination plant which can be used for the national effort. We will use it to help drought-stricken farmers, and that's what we are doing at the moment. We have no intention at this stage of seeing it used as a 450-gigalitre offset. We don't want to see that, but I cannot rule something out as being thoroughly investigated as a matter of goodwill, but prior to the ministerial council—</text>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000784">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000785">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Members on my left, please.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000786">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  —or at the ministerial council we will be in a position—</text>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000787">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000788">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Settle. It's almost over.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120482abf084fe0b4b2580000789">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  —to underline our plans for the Desalination Plant.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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