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  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>SA Health, ICAC Report</name>
      <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000514">
        <heading>SA Health, ICAC Report</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-12-04">
            <name>SA Health, ICAC Report</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-12-04T14:19:13" />
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000515">
          <timeStamp time="2019-12-04T14:19:13" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Leader of the Opposition) (14:19):</by>  Who came up with the idea for an interagency task force?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-12-04">
            <name>SA Health, ICAC Report</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-12-04T14:19:21" />
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000516">
          <timeStamp time="2019-12-04T14:19:21" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:19):</by>  I am happy to answer these questions. I think that it's a very logical response to—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. Mullighan</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000517">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan:</by>  It was an immaculate conception.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000518">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee is definitely warned for that interjection.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000519">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —the report that we received. We are very happy with the fact that we have established this interagency task force.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5376" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Stinson</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000520">
          <by role="member" id="5376">Ms Stinson:</by>  Who came up with it?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000521">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Badcoe is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000522">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  We think that it's a very sensible way to go. It's a very logical response to a very complex and important area for South Australia. On coming into government, we were confronted with a range of issues in relation to—</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000523">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000524">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000525">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000526">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee is warned for a second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000527">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —SA Health. It seems very obvious that those opposite are—</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000528">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000529">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for West Torrens is warned for a second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000530">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  It seems very obvious to me that those opposite have no interest whatsoever in fixing the health system in South Australia. They handed it over to us in an appalling state.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3120" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Pederick</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000531">
          <by role="member" id="3120">Mr Pederick:</by>  They just trashed health.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000532">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Hammond!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000533">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  There is nobody in this entire world who thinks that the health system that we inherited from those opposite was anywhere near what the people of South Australia expect, and we have worked very diligently every single day that we have been in.</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000534">I make it very clear, as you would be aware, sir—because you pay attention in question time—that this government has put in more than $1 billion into the health budget since we came into government.</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000535">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000536">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000537">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  There's a lot of work to be done. You cannot fix the system that we inherited in five minutes, but I am absolutely convinced that we are making extraordinarily good progress, and I think that this interagency task force will assist in that process. Again, I make the point that many of the issues—</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000538">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000539">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader is warned. Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000540">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  It's a shame, sir, that those opposite don't take the extraordinarily important repair of the health system more seriously.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="8983" />
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000541">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000542">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier, there is a point of order. If you could just be seated for one moment.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000543">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The Premier is imputing improper motive to the opposition, and it is debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000544">
          <by role="member" id="4343">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  Point of order, sir, on the point of order: it is the long-established practice of the house that that standing order requires a member, not a class or group of members, to take offence, and the person who has been here longer than anyone should have picked it up by now.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000545">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes. I don't need the speech as well.</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000546">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5384">Mr Patterson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000547">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Morphett is warned. Member for West Torrens, I ask that the interjections cease. I believe the Premier has concluded his answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000548">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  No. I would like to just continue talking about the important work of repairing the health system in South Australia. We have put more than $1 billion in.</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000549">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000550">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000551">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  There is a lot of sensitivity on the opposition benches because they all have to take collective responsibility for the failure in the health system that they passed over to us—none more so, though, on the opposition benches than the Leader of the Opposition. He, of course—</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000552">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000553">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000554">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  The Leader of the Opposition complains that he only had five months to understand what was going on, and that wasn't long enough. It didn't take us five months to understand the full mess that we had inherited from those opposite. I don't hear anybody opposite, in fact, talking up the prospects of Transforming Health. That expression is no longer used in South Australia—</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000555">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. Wingard interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000556">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Minister for Police!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000557">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —and, at every single opportunity, the Leader of the Opposition wants to back out and talk about that he was only the health minister for five months.</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000558">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000559">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000560">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  What about taking responsibility? This is a huge embarrassment for the Leader of the Opposition. He knew—</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000561">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5387">Mr Brown interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000562">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Playford will leave for the remainder of question time under 137A.</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000563">
          <term>The honourable member for Playford having withdrawn from the chamber:</term>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000564">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  He knew exactly and precisely what was going on in the Central Adelaide Local Health Network, but he failed to inform the people of South Australia.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000565">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000566">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order. Premier, be seated.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="8984" />
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000567">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The debate that the Premier is engaging in is causing lots of interruption to the house.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000568">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The point of order is for debate. I uphold the point of order. Premier, would you please conclude your answer.</text>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000569">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019120492533c5c66624e0480000570">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier has concluded his answer. The Leader of the Opposition, although I give him much lenience as the leader, will be leaving if this level of interjection continues today.</text>
      </talker>
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