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  <date date="2019-11-13" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000340">
      <heading>Question Time</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>Submarine Program</name>
      <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000341">
        <heading>Submarine Program</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-11-13">
            <name>Submarine Program</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-11-13T14:03:09" />
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000342">
          <timeStamp time="2019-11-13T14:03:09" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Leader of the Opposition) (14:03):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Can the Premier assure South Australians that all the full cycle docking work, including both blue-collar and white-collar jobs, on the Collins class submarines will continue to be done in Adelaide?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-11-13">
            <name>Submarine Program</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2019-11-13T14:03:28" />
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000343">
          <timeStamp time="2019-11-13T14:03:28" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:03):</by>  As most people in this parliament would be aware, we have been working very hard to mount the case for the continuation of the full cycle docking to be done here in South Australia. South Australia is the undisputed home of the Collins class submarine.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Malinauskas</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000344">
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas:</by>  For now.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000345">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="8514" />
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000346">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  The Leader of the Opposition seems to want to throw stones in an area which has historically been a bipartisan area. I would be very keen to see exactly all of the representations the Leader of the Opposition has made on behalf of the people of South Australia or even whether he can get his own party into line on this issue, because we know for a fact that the Labor Party—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000347">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier, there is a point of order. I will hear the point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000348">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The Premier is debating. Talking about us is debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000349">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have the point of order. Point of order on the point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000350">
          <by role="member" id="4343">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  On the point of order, sir: you have repeatedly ruled that that is not a demonstrable link between just the mention of another party and therefore being debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000351">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Thank you, Minister for Education. I have the point of order. At this stage, I am going to allow the Premier an opportunity to provide some relevant background information, but I will be listening carefully.</text>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000352">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. Knoll interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000353">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  And I don't need the Minister for Transport to intervene at this stage either, thank you. The Premier has the call; I would like to hear the answer, please.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000354">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  The question is whether I can personally guarantee that all full cycle docking will continue into South Australia on an ongoing basis. I presume that this is one of those sorts of rhetorical questions because the reality is that the Leader of the Opposition, if he was actually paying any scant attention to his portfolio, would know that it is not up to me. This is a federal decision, so whether I can assure it or not is completely irrelevant.</text>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000355">What we are doing, though, is that we are working very hard, and my question to the opposition is: what are they doing? We know that Labor is out there talking very strongly about moving full cycle docking over to Western Australia.</text>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000356">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000357">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000358">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  We are, I think, putting forward a very cogent case as to why the full cycle docking should remain in South Australia. I am happy to go through those key issues with the parliament. Number one, South Australia is the home of the Collins class submarine. They were built here. They have been maintained here for a long period of time. Of course, we know that the intermediate docking and the mid-cycle docking is done in Western Australia, but the full cycle docking has been done here in South Australia.</text>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000359">The full cycle docking is far more complicated than the other maintenance work that has been done. It involves the piercing of the pressure hole, and so it is far more like construction. The federal government has made a decision for that construction work to continue in South Australia into the future, especially as evidenced by the awarding of $90 billion worth of naval programs to South Australia, including 12 Future Submarines for South Australia.</text>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000360">The Western Australians believe that they have an argument to mount for moving the full cycle docking over to Western Australia. We don't support that whatsoever. There are not a lot of places in the world where there is any knowledge of the Collins class submarine anymore. South Australia is the repository of all that knowledge.</text>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000361">The most important thing for Australia going forward is the availability of the Collins class through to the time when the Attack class comes into service. This is going to be more than a decade away, so it's absolutely crucial not only that the Collins class is kept in service but also that it is kept available for the Royal Australian Navy. It is a critical piece of defence infrastructure for our nation.</text>
        <text id="20191113ef00791d73d94f1da0000362">We have done a great job in terms of the full cycle docking. There were problems associated with the full cycle docking in the past, but there have been major improvements, and I think that any move out of South Australia would put that availability at risk and then ultimately the defence of our nation at risk.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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