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  <date date="2019-10-17" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
      <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000562">
        <heading>Ambulance Ramping</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2019-10-17">
            <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-10-17T14:19:48" />
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000563">
          <timeStamp time="2019-10-17T14:19:48" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Leader of the Opposition) (14:19):</by>  My question is to the minister representing the Minister for Health. How can the minister inform the house that ramping was not a contributing factor to last night's ambulance shortage in the southern suburbs, but then not rule out ramping occurring at the Flinders Medical Centre?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Stuart</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-10-17">
            <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-10-17T14:20:04" />
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000564">
          <timeStamp time="2019-10-17T14:20:04" />
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN (Stuart—Minister for Energy and Mining) (14:20):</by>  Again, a very similar question and I have a very similar answer. Advice from South Australian—</text>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000565">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000566">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee is warned, as is the member for Hurtle Vale.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000567">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Advice from the South Australian Ambulance Service and from the Southern Adelaide—</text>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000568">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000569">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I remind the member for Lee that he has been warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000570">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Advice from the South Australian Ambulance Service and the Southern Adelaide Local Health Network is that neither ramping nor any other hospital-based issue was a factor in the delivery of ambulance care in the south last night, including Flinders Medical Centre.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000571">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order: the minister just quoted advice from the Ambulance Service. Could you please ask him to table that?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000572">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  There is a point of order on the point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000573">
          <by role="member" id="4343">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  If the minister was claiming to be quoting directly from a document, then the member for West Torrens' point would have a lot more going for it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000574">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Is the minister quoting a document in his possession?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000575">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  No, sir. As the Manager of Government Business said very clearly, I would have said if I was quoting.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000576">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Thank you for clarifying. I do not uphold the point of order.</text>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000577">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000578">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I ask the minister to continue and I would like to hear his answer. If the interjections could cease, that would be excellent.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000579">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I was so hoping that just once, sir—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000580">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I wasn't accusing you; I would never accuse the member for West Torrens of doing something that he hadn't.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000581">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order: the minister said 'according to advice from the SA Ambulance Service', sir. I would ask you, at the conclusion of question time, to check the <term>Hansard</term>.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000582">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I will conduct all relevant inquiries that I need to in order to discharge my duties. Thank you, member for West Torrens; you have made your point.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000583">
          <by role="member" id="4343">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  Can I have another point of order, sir?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="7953" />
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000584">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  No, I want to hear the minister's answer. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000585">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  To help those opposite, particularly the member for West Torrens, let me be really clear about this: a parliamentary briefing note provided to me just after—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000586">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Internal memoranda; thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000587">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  —during the lunch break from the office of the Minister for Health and Wellbeing includes, and I quote:</text>
        <text id="20191017f6933dede9ac44c180000588">
          <inserted>Advice from the South Australian Ambulance Service and Southern Adelaide Local Health Network is that neither ramping nor any other hospital-based issue was a factor in the delivery of ambulance care in the south last night.</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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