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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Land Tax</name>
      <page num="7647" />
      <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001113">
        <heading>Land Tax</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2019-09-26">
            <name>Land Tax</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-09-26T14:11:57" />
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001114">
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          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Leader of the Opposition) (14:11):</by>  My question is to the Premier. If the Premier has done modelling, can he please advise the house how many landowners are worse off under the latest bill changes to land tax?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-09-26">
            <name>Land Tax</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-09-26T14:12:12" />
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001115">
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          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:12):</by>  We have done comprehensive modelling. We have provided those to one of the big four. I think it was PwC.</text>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001116">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4846">Ms Hildyard interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001117">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Reynell is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001118">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Their report is on the YourSAy website. We have hardly hidden and buried it. My understanding is that you can actually go down and download it.</text>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001119">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001120">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, Deputy Premier!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001121">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  I know that they are busy writing questions up in the dream factory.</text>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001122">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5389">Mr Boyer interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001123">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Wright is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001124">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  But the reality is that this is a tricky situation. We are relying on trying to build a model that will replicate the likely changes and behaviours from the new set of scenarios. We note that the previous government attempted this as well. In fact, they did this only four years ago. They predicted that the aggregation would bring in $30 million. That was the best advice. That was the advice—</text>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001125">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001126">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001127">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  And let me tell you, they screamed.</text>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001128">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4841">Mr Picton interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001129">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Kaurna is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001130">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  They didn't do it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001131">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001132">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Well, we are doing it at exactly and precisely the same time that we are—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001133">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier, there is a point of order. One moment.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001134">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The Premier is talking about a 2015 tax reform package, not his package, sir. This is debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001135">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  So this is debate.</text>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001136">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4343">The Hon. J.A.W. Gardner interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001137">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, yes. The Minister for Education makes a good point. I just require the short version of a point of order. Debate; I have it. I am going to listen carefully. The Premier has the call.</text>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001138">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001139">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader, you will be leaving very shortly if this continues.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001140">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Thank you very much, sir.</text>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001141">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="7648" />
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001142">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001143">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  The question was about modelling. I was listening very clearly to the question, which was about modelling, and I think it is fair that I provide information to the parliament on our modelling and modelling that relates to the aggregation issue. We have done our modelling. The previous government did their modelling. They released it in 2015. The former treasurer—</text>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001144">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4622">Dr Close interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001145">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The deputy leader is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001146">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —the current member for West Torrens—the aspirant, as I call him—was the treasurer at the time, I believe, at the 2015 tax summit.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001147">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir: it is not about me in 2015. It is debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001148">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  As an aspirant—it is also a personal reflection. Premier, I ask you to stick to the substance of the question, please. Do not provoke them, member for West Torrens.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001149">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  They're all aspirants, sir. They’re all aspirants. We just heard it from the member for Lee. You have to be worried when your front bench is saying that you're all aspirants.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001150">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001151">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, this is debate, Premier. The Premier will be seated.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001152">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The Premier has lost control, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001153">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I uphold the point of order for debate. It's debate.</text>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001154">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001155">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  No. I am moving to the member for Flinders, and I will come back to the leader.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001156">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  It's a lovely blue shirt.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190926e5890976c00a4dd580001157">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for West Torrens is on two warnings.</text>
      </talker>
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