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  <proceeding>
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000269">
      <heading>Question Time</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>Land Tax Forum</name>
      <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000270">
        <heading>Land Tax Forum</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-09-24">
            <name>Land Tax Forum</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-09-24T14:08:53" />
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000271">
          <timeStamp time="2019-09-24T14:08:53" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Leader of the Opposition) (14:08):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Child Protection. Why did the minister lock out the media from her land tax forum last Friday?</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000272">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="7443" />
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000273">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier, be seated for one moment. Members on my left—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2019-09-24T14:09:17" />
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000274">
          <timeStamp time="2019-09-24T14:09:17" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:09):</by>  I am very happy to answer this, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000275">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, one moment, Premier. I call to order the following members for interjecting: the member for Badcoe, the deputy leader and the Leader of the Opposition. Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000276">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Thank you very much, sir; I am very happy to answer this question. I think it is important that the member for Adelaide works with her constituents through the complex issue of land tax reform—a reform that we are up to here on this side of the house. They contrast very distinctly from the position that is held by the other side of the house.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000277">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000278">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  There is a point of order, Premier. I will take the point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000279">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Debate: the Premier immediately started talking—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000280">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have the point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000281">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —about the opposition's point of view.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000282">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for West Torrens, please be seated. As I have alluded to on occasion after occasion, I have enabled ministers or the Premier to provide some, perhaps, relevant background to the question, but I will ensure that he does stick to the substance of the question. I have the point of order. I thank the member for West Torrens. I will listen to the Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000283">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Thank you very much, sir. The question is about consultation with the people of South Australia, and I was just making the point of the contrasting consultation between those on this side of the house and those on the other side of the house. We note that the Leader of the Opposition still hasn't formed an opinion—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000284">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir: this is clearly debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000285">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have the point of order.</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000286">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000287">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader and the Deputy Premier are not helping. I don't want points of order to be raised—I am not saying that this one is, but I don't want us to be stifled by frivolous points of order in the future. I have listened to the member for West Torrens. I have given the Premier some time to warm up. He is talking about consultation, but I promise the member for West Torrens that, if it crosses a line, I will step in. Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000288">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Thank you very much, sir. I was just making the point that we on this side of the house are very keen to consult with the people in our electorates about the largest land tax reform—</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000289">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000290">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000291">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —in the history of this state and talk to them about our very firm position that we are taking to the people of South Australia.</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000292">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000293">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000294">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  It is disorderly to respond but very tempting to respond to some of the unruly interjections of the Leader of the Opposition. The opposition are continually asserting that they are consulting.</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000295">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000296">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="7444" />
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000297">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  They haven't formed an opinion. We on this side of the house have very clear opinions—</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000298">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5376">Ms Stinson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000299">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Badcoe!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000300">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —and we are explaining to the people of South Australia—</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000301">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000302">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Members on my right, be quiet.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000303">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —the very significant reform which we are putting forward. That is precisely what we are doing.</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000304">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000305">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000306">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  We are putting forward—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5387" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Brown</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000307">
          <by role="member" id="5387">Mr Brown:</by>  Decide and defend.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000308">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The member for Playford is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000309">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  We are putting forward a very strong position, which offers a very significant reduction in land tax in South Australia. In fact, it is the largest land tax cut in the history of South Australia. We are—</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000310">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000311">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000312">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —explaining that to—</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000313">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000314">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000315">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  We are explaining that to the people of South Australia very clearly. Now it is up for further input from the people of South Australia.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000316">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir: the question was about media attendance at these consultations.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000317">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, regarding the land tax forum. I still believe that the Premier is answering in a germane fashion, but I am listening to him, to his every word.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000318">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  And so we are very keen to speak to the people in electorates when they ask us questions.</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000319">
          <event kind="interjection">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000320">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000321">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Some MPs will make a decision to speak to their electorate—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5387" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Brown</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000322">
          <by role="member" id="5387">Mr Brown:</by>  What have you got to hide?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000323">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Playford is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000324">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —directly, and that is precisely what we are doing. As to whether or not media should be attending these functions, that is up to the individual situation. Some people—</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000325">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000326">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="7445" />
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000327">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —who come to functions and events called by members do not want to be filmed. Some people want to provide feedback to the government in a forum which is not subject to having a television camera or a microphone put in their face. We respect those—</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000328">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5389">Mr Boyer interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000329">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Wright is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000330">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —concerns that people have. The opposition can choose to conduct their consultation with the media if they choose to do so, and I am sure that they make it clear—</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000331">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000332">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000333">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —to people who are attending their functions that media will be present, but we choose to conduct our consultations—</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000334">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4335">Mr Odenwalder interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000335">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The member for Elizabeth is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000336">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —in our own way. We have arrived at our position. What we are not clear about is what the opposition thinks regarding a massive land tax cut. They have no position.</text>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000337">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000338">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000339">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  The Leader of the Opposition is floating around like a feather in the breeze.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000340">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000341">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The point of order is for debate?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000342">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Yes, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019092486fa8633c1134cf1b0000343">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I uphold the point of order. Is the Premier finished? The Premier has finished his answer. The Leader of the Opposition.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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