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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2019-09-11" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>House of Assembly</house>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Estimates Replies</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Funds SA</name>
      <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001573">
        <inserted>
          <heading>Funds SA</heading>
        </inserted>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Lee</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-09-11">
            <name>Funds SA</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001574">
          <inserted>In reply to <by role="member" id="4842">the Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN (Lee)</by> (24 July 2019).  (Estimates Committee B)</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Treasurer</electorate>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001575">
          <inserted>
            <by role="member" id="">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS (Treasurer):</by>  I have been advised the following:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001576">
          <inserted>Funds SA assesses total investment related fees/costs incurred by calculating an indirect cost ratio (ICR). The ICR represents the total investment costs/expenses as a percentage of funds under management and is a standard expense measurement tool used in the funds management and superannuation industry. Types of fees/costs included in Funds SA's ICR include:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001577">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Fund Manager fees, including performance fees</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001578">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Fees/costs incurred by underlying funds in which Funds SA is directly or indirectly invested</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001579">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Transaction costs</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001580">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Corporate expenses </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001581">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Custody fees</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001582">
          <inserted>For the year ended 30 June 2019, the total ICR incurred by Funds SA was 0.88 per cent, or $8,800 per $1 million. For the year ended 30 June 2019, total fund manager fees were 0.62 per cent, or $202.9 million. Across the Funds SA investment options, the range of fees paid directly by Funds SA to investment managers for the year ended 30 June 2019 were as follows:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001583">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Cash, 0.05 per cent</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001584">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Capital Defensive, 0.30 per cent</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001585">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Conservative, 0.35 per cent</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001586">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Moderate, 0.50 per cent</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001587">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Balanced, 0.60 per cent</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001588">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Growth, 0.66 per cent</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001589">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>High growth, 0.67 per cent</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001590">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Defined benefit strategy, 0.79 per cent</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001591">
          <inserted>All returns earned by Funds SA investors are reported after the payment of fees.</inserted>
        </text>
        <page num="7254" />
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001592">
          <inserted>A summary of funds under management (by manager as at 30 June 2019) is attached.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001593">
          <inserted>
            <table>
              <rowtitle>
                <cell>Fund Manager</cell>
                <cell>Total Funds SA FUM</cell>
              </rowtitle>
              <row>
                <cell>Macquarie</cell>
                <cell>$2,397,102,199 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Vinva</cell>
                <cell>$1,813,071,284 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>AMP</cell>
                <cell>$1,571,217,725 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Investors Mutual</cell>
                <cell>$1,453,621,655 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>MFS</cell>
                <cell>$1,307,358,917 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Greencape Capital</cell>
                <cell>$1,286,115,279 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>LSV</cell>
                <cell>$1,232,833,427 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Northcape Capital</cell>
                <cell>$1,195,865,522 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Harding Loevner</cell>
                <cell>$1,168,802,106 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Dexus</cell>
                <cell>$1,153,607,211 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Mondrian</cell>
                <cell>$1,126,366,860 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Invesco</cell>
                <cell>$1,104,073,706 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>AQR</cell>
                <cell>$1,000,304,453 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>BlackRock</cell>
                <cell>$906,019,711 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>GMO</cell>
                <cell>$837,219,355 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Bridgewater</cell>
                <cell>$804,165,261 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Colonial First State</cell>
                <cell>$801,547,013 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Ardea</cell>
                <cell>$795,008,202 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Utilities Trust of Australia</cell>
                <cell>$742,264,767 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Vanguard</cell>
                <cell>$683,285,025 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Colchester</cell>
                <cell>$676,882,992 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Columbia</cell>
                <cell>$666,998,539 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Wellington</cell>
                <cell>$604,082,853 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Ethical Partners</cell>
                <cell>$567,249,411 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Investa</cell>
                <cell>$524,996,591 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Brandywine </cell>
                <cell>$506,315,339 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Touchstone</cell>
                <cell>$496,029,534 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>GPT</cell>
                <cell>$405,352,845 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Ares</cell>
                <cell>$399,271,475 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Brandywine</cell>
                <cell>$396,230,169 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Internal (cash accounts)</cell>
                <cell>$394,143,973 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>LGT</cell>
                <cell>$393,681,226 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Oak Hill</cell>
                <cell>$388,733,950 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Genesis</cell>
                <cell>$366,410,221 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Funds SA (internally managed assets)</cell>
                <cell>$309,282,099 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Global Infrastructure Management, LLC</cell>
                <cell>$258,533,977 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Lord Abbett</cell>
                <cell>$256,442,375 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Bain Capital Partners LLC</cell>
                <cell>$238,610,540 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Putnam</cell>
                <cell>$215,034,375 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Adams Street Partners LLC</cell>
                <cell>$209,219,802 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Ocean Avenue Capital Partners LP</cell>
                <cell>$207,011,305 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Palisade</cell>
                <cell>$194,080,887 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Pantheon Ventures Ltd</cell>
                <cell>$190,021,279 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>EQT Funds Management Ltd</cell>
                <cell>$188,880,259 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Cerberus Capital Management, LP</cell>
                <cell>$181,759,318 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Warburg Pincus LLC</cell>
                <cell>$134,657,109 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Siguler Guff &amp; Company LLC</cell>
                <cell>$109,450,816 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Lend Lease</cell>
                <cell>$107,340,460 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Permira Debt Managers Ltd</cell>
                <cell>$104,686,814 </cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>EIG Alternative Investments LLC</cell>
                <cell>$82,755,691 </cell>
              </row>
            </table>
          </inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001594" />
        <page num="7255" />
        <text id="201909116c3c6cf223d346f790001595">
          <inserted>PLEASE NOTE: the fund managers detailed above cover the top 50 by Funds SA funds under management. Funds SA utilises managers beyond this cohort however, the funds under management of those outside the top 50 is small by comparison.</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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