<!--The Official Report of Parliamentary Debates (Hansard) of the Legislative Council and the House of Assembly of the Parliament of South Australia are covered by parliamentary privilege. Republication by others is not afforded the same protection and may result in exposure to legal liability if the material is defamatory. You may copy and make use of excerpts of proceedings where (1) you attribute the Parliament as the source, (2) you assume the risk of liability if the manner of your use is defamatory, (3) you do not use the material for the purpose of advertising, satire or ridicule, or to misrepresent members of Parliament, and (4) your use of the extracts is fair, accurate and not misleading. Copyright in the Official Report of Parliamentary Debates is held by the Attorney-General of South Australia.-->
<hansard id="" tocId="" xml:lang="EN-AU" schemaVersion="1.0" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:xml="http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="hansard_1_0.xsd">
  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2019-07-02" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>House of Assembly</house>
  <venue></venue>
  <reviewStage>published</reviewStage>
  <startPage num="6479" />
  <endPage num="6559" />
  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Public Transport Privatisation</name>
      <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000444">
        <heading>Public Transport Privatisation</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Croydon</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-07-02">
            <name>Public Transport Privatisation</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-07-02T14:20:56" />
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000445">
          <timeStamp time="2019-07-02T14:20:56" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr MALINAUSKAS (Croydon—Leader of the Opposition) (14:20):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Can the Premier rule out that a privatised public transport rail network will be foreign owned?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-07-02">
            <name>Public Transport Privatisation</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-07-02T14:21:06" />
        <page num="6508" />
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000446">
          <timeStamp time="2019-07-02T14:21:06" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:21):</by>  We have made it very clear that we are not selling the tracks. We are not selling the trains or the trams or the stations. We are outsourcing the operation to make sure that we can achieve best practice for commuters and taxpayers in South Australia. I want to take this opportunity to commend the—</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000447">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000448">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000449">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —Minister for Planning, Transport and Infrastructure in South Australia. He has a vision for public—</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000450">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000451">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000452">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —transport in South Australia that is much higher than was achieved over the previous 16 years of Labor, which talked a lot about public transport. They talked a lot about public transport.</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000453">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000454">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000455">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  They were going to electrify the Outer Harbor line—it didn't happen.</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000456">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000457">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000458">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  They were going to electrify the Grange line—it didn't happen. They went halfway to Gawler—we had to finish the job. So we are not going to take any lectures from those opposite regarding public transport. We now have a Public Transport Authority in South Australia. I think the people who are on it will be able to look after—</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000459">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000460">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader! Members on my left!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000461">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —and make sure that we enhance services for the people of our state.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000462">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier, be seated for one moment. Member for Light, you can leave for half an hour under 137A for interjecting continually.</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000463">
          <event>The honourable member for Light having withdrawn from the chamber:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000464">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000465">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  As I was saying, sir, we now have the Public Transport Authority set up. We are investing hundreds of millions of dollars into the infrastructure for our public transport system in South Australia. Most recently—</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000466">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4978">Ms Cook interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000467">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Hurtle Vale is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000468">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Most recently, in a particularly tough budget, where there were increases to fares and fines and other government charges, we kept the charge increase for public transport to a minimum: 2 per cent and below. That is because—</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000469">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000470">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000471">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —we believe</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000472">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="6509" />
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000473">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000474">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —in enhanced services for public transport in South Australia. There is lots of talk from those opposite, sir. Finally, you are getting some action from those on this side of the house, and we really do—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000475">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order: the question was about whether the outsourced service would be owned by a foreign entity. The Premier is not answering the question; he is debating, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000476">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The point of order is for debate. In fairness to the Premier, there is a cacophony of noise that continues to come from my left. Many members have already been ejected and there will be more to follow if this sort of noise continues. Member for West Torrens, I'm really struggling to hear the Premier's answer amongst all this noise, but I will listen assiduously to ensure that he sticks to the substance of the question. Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000477">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Thank you very much. It was an interesting question, sir—a question about private ownership or foreign ownership of assets in South Australia.</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000478">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000479">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! I would like to hear the answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000480">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  That's an incredible question to ask and maybe the Leader of the Opposition could lean over to his good friend and economic adviser and mentor the member for West Torrens to hear all about how privatisation works. There was plenty of privatisation under the prince of privatisation. Have a look what he did to the forests. Were they owned by a foreign entity? I think maybe they were. There were plenty of other capabilities sent overseas by the former government, so we are not going to be lectured by them. The reality is, sir—</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000481">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000482">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000483">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —that we will retain ownership. Taxpayers will retain ownership of the trains and the trams and the tracks and the stations—</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000484">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000485">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000486">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —and the reality is that we are investing to grow our public transport capability based on best practice.</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000487">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000488">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000489">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  An analysis has been done of best practice in public transport globally. We have taken those lessons and we are going to apply them here in South Australia. What we are doing—</text>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000490">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000491">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!  </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000492">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —is the work that those left on the shelf for the past 16 years.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190702bc42e986dc5d4499b0000493">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Badcoe is called to order and warned.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
</hansard>