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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Mental Health Services</name>
      <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000574">
        <heading>Mental Health Services</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4841" kind="question">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kaurna</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-06-05">
            <name>Mental Health Services</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-06-05T14:42:31" />
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000575">
          <timeStamp time="2019-06-05T14:42:31" />
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON (Kaurna) (14:42):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Premier, will state-based mental health NGO programs be subject to a $6.8 million, or a 25 per cent reduction, in their funding from July or not?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-06-05">
            <name>Mental Health Services</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2019-06-05T14:42:47" />
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          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:42):</by>  I have already answered this question. As I said, I find it deeply disturbing that those opposite are not listening to the basic logic of what has occurred.</text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000577">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4841">Mr Picton interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000578">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Kaurna is interjecting during the Premier's answer and he is warned for a second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000579">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  So I would like to take this opportunity to make it crystal clear, and then after I have made it crystal clear it will be very interesting to see whether those opposite are prepared to do the honourable thing and to go out and correct the record—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000580">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir: imputing improper motive to the opposition every time we ask the Premier a question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000581">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have the point of order. By the Premier asking whether members will do the honourable thing, the member for West Torrens has taken it to mean that it may be imputing that they may be acting or will act in a way that is inconsistent with the honourable thing.</text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000582">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000583">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have the point. I think it's on the edge. I ask the Premier to come back, however, to the substance of the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000584">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Thank you very much, sir. I will outline to the house in detail what has occurred. I find it almost impossible to believe, though, sir, that those opposite do not understand this, but here we go. First of all, there has been no reduction in funding for disability or mental health services as characterised by the member for Kaurna in his question only moments ago.</text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000585">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000586">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000587">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Secondly, $6.8 million has been transferred to the NDIS to cover the services for those clients who are eligible for transfer to the NDIS.</text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000588">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4841">Mr Picton interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000589">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Kaurna is on two warnings again.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000590">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Funding that was previously under the state jurisdiction for these clients—as the clients transfer to the NDIS, so too does the funding. That's precisely what has occurred. I am informed that 25 per cent of clients in the Individual Psychosocial Rehabilitation Support Services (IPRSS) program have been approved for NDIS funding, and state funding for those clients is now being transferred.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Picton</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000591">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr Picton:</by>  The programs are full.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000592">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Kaurna can leave for the remainder of the question time.</text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000593">
          <event>The honourable member for Kaurna having withdrawn from the chamber:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000594">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  I make that point, sir—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000595">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000596">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier, please be seated; there is a point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000597">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The Premier is being provocative in his answer. The shadow minister for health is asking the government questions, and when we do you just punt him, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000598">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for West Torrens not only fails to make a relevant point of order but he continues to make an impromptu speech. He can leave for the remainder of question time.</text>
        <page num="6133" />
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000599">
          <event>The honourable member for West Torrens having withdrawn from the chamber:</event>
        </text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000600">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4622">Dr Close interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000601">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The deputy leader can also leave for the remainder of question time.</text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000602">
          <event>The honourable member for Port Adelaide having withdrawn from the chamber:</event>
        </text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000603">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000604">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Hammond can leave as well, and so can the member for Mawson for the remainder of question time for saying that this is a protection racket.</text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000605">
          <event>The honourable members for Hammond and Mawson having withdrawn from the chamber:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000606">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000607">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  As I have outlined, patients are transferring to the national system. The funding allocated to those patients is transferring to the national system. This is exactly and precisely how the system was designed. This is exactly and precisely how the system is meant to work. This is the system that, by the way, was actually negotiated—</text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000608">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000609">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The member for Hurtle Vale and the member for Reynell are warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000610">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —by the former federal Labor government with the former Labor state government. Now we have those opposite arguing against the deal that they set up, which we supported—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000611">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  Point of order: debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000612">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I am trying to listen to the Premier respectfully, member for Lee. I had the member for Hurtle Vale and the member for Reynell interjecting during the answer. I will listen carefully to the Premier's comments. Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000613">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Thank you very much, sir. I go on to say today and assure the people of South Australia that no current mental health clients in SA Health-funded psychosocial programs should be disadvantaged as a result of the NDIS transition arrangements. We are committed to funding these psychosocial services—</text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000614">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000615">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Hurtle Vale and the member for Reynell are warned for a second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000616">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —for those people with severe mental health illnesses who are not eligible for the NDIS services.</text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000617">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4978">Ms Cook interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000618">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Hurtle Vale can leave for the remainder of question time in silence.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000619">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  What the member for Hurtle Vale doesn't understand—</text>
        <text id="20190605ca67928f29344b38b0000620">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4978">Ms Cook interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
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