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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Darlington Upgrade Project</name>
      <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000587">
        <heading>Darlington Upgrade Project</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-05-14">
            <name>Darlington Upgrade Project</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-05-14T14:46:47" />
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000588">
          <timeStamp time="2019-05-14T14:46:47" />
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens) (14:46):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Transport and Infrastructure. Were any of the 46 DPTI employees who received targeted voluntary separation packages involved in the oversight or project management of the Darlington project?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Schubert</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Planning</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2019-05-14">
            <name>Darlington Upgrade Project</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-05-14T14:47:03" />
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        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000589">
          <timeStamp time="2019-05-14T14:47:03" />
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL (Schubert—Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Local Government, Minister for Planning) (14:47):</by>  Finally, he actually tells us where this figure comes from. Over the last week, in the media the member for West Torrens has been using a figure that somehow 46 senior executives from the department are no longer there, and that is why there is something wrong with the place. We could not for the life of us work out where this figure came from.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. Mullighan</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000590">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan:</by>  It was tabled in parliament.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000591">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  Laugh, sure—but now we actually understand—</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000592">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee is warned for a second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000593">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —where the figure has come from, and we are talking about targeted voluntary separation packages.</text>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000594">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000595">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000596">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  Yes, the member is correct—</text>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000597">
          <event kind="interjection">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000598">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000599">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —that there are 46 members, across the entire organisation of 3,000 people, who have taken TVSPs. I kept thinking that I don't even have 46 senior executives within the department, and I must admit that I don't know where they went.</text>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000600">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000601">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000602">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  Again, I was wondering whether or not he was speaking about the mass exodus of departmental staff who left when the former chief executive Rod Hook was sacked and the whole host of senior executives at that time I now come across—because a lot of them are working in private industry—</text>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000603">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5387">Mr Brown interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000604">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Playford is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000605">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —and tell me about what happened during that time. Now we've got to the heart of the issue, and I can categorically rule out that there have been 46 senior executives who have gone anywhere in the department. But I can say that the staff who are working down there—the senior project leads as well as the people those project leads then report to within the department—are all still there. They are all the same people. They were there under the former government and they still exist there under the new government.</text>
        <text id="201905143f321911a6424d5c90000606">At the lower levels, there may have been some personnel change, but certainly the people who report to me are very much still there and they are very much going to continue to be there because of the host of knowledge they have in relation to building projects across our state. We are dealing with our Hindmarsh clay soils, we are dealing with a lot of very specific issues that are unique to Adelaide, and they have a history with the projects the department has previously undertaken. They are still there, and I certainly hope they continue to be there well into the future.</text>
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