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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Public Transport</name>
      <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000419">
        <heading>Public Transport</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
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          <question date="2019-05-14">
            <name>Public Transport</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-05-14T14:15:47" />
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000420">
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          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens) (14:15):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Transport and Infrastructure. Will the minister rule out privatising one or more of Adelaide Metro train or tram services or contracting out the operations of any of the tram or train network services?</text>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000421">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000422">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Attorney-General is called to order. Minister for Transport, did you catch that question? I ask members to not interject while the question is being asked.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Schubert</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Transport</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Planning</name>
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        <startTime time="2019-05-14T14:16:18" />
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000423">
          <timeStamp time="2019-05-14T14:16:18" />
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL (Schubert—Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Local Government, Minister for Planning) (14:16):</by>  I think I can now understand what the theme of what the shadow minister is trying to get at in relation to the privatisation agenda—</text>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000424">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000425">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! We have the question.</text>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000426">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000427">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier is called to order. The member for Waite is called to order. Members on my right, be quiet. The minister is trying to have a crack at the answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5744" />
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000428">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —forests, the lands titles office. I will tell you one thing that we are actually having to look into at the moment, and that is the privatisation of the motor registry, because a deal done by the former government forces us to have a look at it. What's interesting here is that—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>Members interjecting</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000429">
          <by role="office">Members interjecting:</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000430">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000431">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —what we have at the moment is a privatised bus network. It has been in private hands for a long time. Again, if this was not a good way to do business, then the former government had three iterations of contract to change that. What we did have under the former government was a privatisation of parts of our road maintenance network. Again, if there was a problem with that, the former government had plenty of opportunity to change the way those contracting arrangements worked to bring them back in-house. They chose not to.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000432">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order: the minister is talking about bus networks. I am asking a question about tram and train networks. I ask you to bring him back and stop debating the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000433">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The point of order is for whether the minister is replying to the substance of the question. I suppose he is speaking about transport germanely. I will allow him some time to warm up and then I ask him to come back to the substance of the question. Thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000434">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  Sure, Mr Speaker. Can I say that we also announced last Friday our model in relation to what the South Australian public transport authority is going to look like. That model is one that will stay inside the department. That model will essentially provide an authority for us to bring together all of the elements of public transport that existed in quite a disparate and disjointed fashion right across the department.</text>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000435">What we have been able to do now is bring together the bus, the heavy and the light rail operations, to bring the public transport planning people together with those back-office functions that support that so that we can actually finally have a single area that has very clear reporting lines that allows us to improve our customer focus and essentially—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Malinauskas</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000436">
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas:</by>  After you've made the cuts.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000437">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000438">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —delivers on that promise—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Picton</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000439">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr Picton:</by>  Are you going to privatise?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000440">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Kaurna is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000441">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  —that we took to the last election. That was very much that we wanted to create a customer focused organisation. We believe that the best way for that to happen is the model that we announced last Friday, that model that brings together all of these—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000442">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order: debate again, sir. My question was very simple: is the minister planning to privatise our train and tram services?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000443">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have the point of order. I believe the minister is concluding his answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.K. KNOLL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000444">
          <by role="member" id="4847">The Hon. S.K. KNOLL:</by>  Sure.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000445">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Newland has the call. I will come back to the member for West Torrens.</text>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000446">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190514e83b29a68d924f98b0000447">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
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