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  <date date="2019-04-04" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Child Protection</name>
      <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000585">
        <heading>Child Protection</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5376" kind="question">
        <name>Ms STINSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Badcoe</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-04-04">
            <name>Child Protection</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2019-04-04T14:40:37" />
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000586">
          <timeStamp time="2019-04-04T14:40:37" />
          <by role="member" id="5376">Ms STINSON (Badcoe) (14:40):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Child Protection. Can the minister rule out her or her department ever again considering the introduction of 12-hour shifts for residential care workers?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Adelaide</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-04-04">
            <name>Child Protection</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-04-04T14:40:56" />
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000587">
          <timeStamp time="2019-04-04T14:40:56" />
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON (Adelaide—Minister for Child Protection) (14:40):</by>  I thank the member for her question and—</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000588">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5376">Ms Stinson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000589">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The member for Badcoe is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000590">
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON:</by>  Why don't we set the scene of the child protection department that I was left with after 16 years—</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000591">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000592">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Minister, be seated. The deputy leader can leave for the rest of question time, please.</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000593">
          <event>The honourable member for Port Adelaide having withdrawn from the chamber:</event>
        </text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000594">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3120">Mr Pederick interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000595">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Hammond can join her for the rest of question time.</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000596">
          <event>The honourable member for Hammond having withdrawn from the chamber:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000597">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The minister has the call. I understand the interjections, on my left especially, but I will allow the minister some time to compare and contrast, and then I expect her to come to the substance of the question. I would like members on my left to be quiet.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000598">
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON:</by>  As we are well aware, you can look at the Robyn Layton report, the two Mullighan inquiries, the Debelle inquiry, the Nyland royal commission to see that child protection as a system was not working under the Labor government. In fact, in every measure it was failing dismally—</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000599">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. Bignell interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000600">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Mawson is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000601">
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON:</by>  —so when I came in a year ago as the minister, pretty well every single thing I looked at in that department I would look at changing. It was a mess, an absolute mess. Calls weren't being answered—</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000602">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5571">Mr Szakacs interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000603">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Cheltenham is warned. That didn't take long.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5428" />
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000604">
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON:</by>  —investigations weren't being made. There were high numbers of 'closed, no action'. Under the Report on Government Services, we were the lowest, if not in the bottom two, on every possible measure. My department and my CE, Cathy Taylor, have been working hard to look at every single area and how we can improve it. We are looking at every area, from computer systems to resourcing to how we do things—</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000605">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000606">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000607">
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON:</by>  —to the treatment of our foster carers.</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000608">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000609">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000610">
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON:</by>  We have already announced several policies, as members know. Under Labor—</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000611">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000612">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000613">
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON:</by>  —there was strike action from the PSA because of the 270 FTE vacancies—</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000614">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000615">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee is two warnings.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000616">
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON:</by>  —that had been held for almost four years that I was the shadow minister. We are working hard to address staffing issues. We have broadened the qualifications that are accepted and we have already placed over 30 people in front-line positions under that new policy. We are answering more calls, we have fewer hang-ups, we are making more investigations. More children are being kept safe under this government, and I will not apologise for that.</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000617">We are improving our efficiencies and, as members know, we will continue to improve our efficiencies. We will look at every, single area from staffing to recruiting to foster caring. We have already announced foster and kinship care repayments to 21, the first state in the nation to initiate that. I am very proud of the changes we are making and we will continue to make—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000618">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000619">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  There is a point of order. One moment, minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000620">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  You gave the minister two minutes to expand on the question. Now if she could get to the substance of the question—debate, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000621">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The point of order is debate. I believe the minister is finishing up her answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000622">
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON:</by>  I am, to say that—</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000623">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000624">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000625">
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON:</by>  —everything is on the table, any efficiency, anything that we can do to improve the outcomes for our children.</text>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000626">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000627">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! Allow the minister to finish.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R. SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20190404239d5b7cd16348c090000628">
          <by role="member" id="4340">The Hon. R. SANDERSON:</by>  My job is to look after the children who are in my care, and I will do that and I will do it in any way that is necessary to get better outcomes for the children under my guardianship.</text>
      </talker>
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