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  <date date="2019-02-13" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Water Recovery Socio-Economic Criteria</name>
      <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000509">
        <heading>Water Recovery Socio-economic Criteria</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" kind="question">
        <name>Dr CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-02-13">
            <name>Water Recovery Socio-economic Criteria</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-02-13T14:22:07" />
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000510">
          <timeStamp time="2019-02-13T14:22:07" />
          <by role="member" id="4622">Dr CLOSE (Port Adelaide—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (14:22):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Environment and Water.</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000511">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000512">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Dr CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000513">
          <by role="member" id="4622">Dr CLOSE:</by>  Did the minister—</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000514">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000515">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Can I have the question from the start? Order, members on my left and right!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Malinauskas</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4575" />
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000516">
          <by role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas:</by>  She is reading from the report you haven't read.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000517">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Notes are allowed.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Dr CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000518">
          <by role="member" id="4622">Dr CLOSE:</by>  Did the minister read the final day of hearings in the royal commission, prior to the finishing of hearings? With your leave and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000519">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Dr CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000520">
          <by role="member" id="4622">Dr CLOSE:</by>  On that final day of hearings, the senior counsel to the royal commissioner said:</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000521">
          <inserted>…it seems as though Mr Littleproud, the current Commonwealth Minister For Agriculture and Water, and the New South Wales and Victorian Governments want an amendment made to the Basin Plan in relation to the definition of socio-economic impacts…</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000522">Then he says:</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000523">
          <inserted>I'm going to come to those proposed changes because if they are made to the Basin Plan, then the little prospect of South Australia ever getting this 450 gigalitres becomes zero. Zero.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000524">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>An honourable member</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000525">
          <by role="office">An honourable member:</by>  A point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000526">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  No, time has expired for a point of order. The member for Ramsay can leave for one hour. There were so many interjections then between the answer being given and the question being asked. That is completely unacceptable. The member for Ramsay can leave for an hour. She was not the only one. If this continues, more will be departing the chamber.</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000527">
          <term>The honourable member for Ramsay having withdrawn from the chamber:</term>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000528">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Minister for Environment and Water has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Black</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Environment and Water</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2019-02-13T14:23:46" />
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000529">
          <timeStamp time="2019-02-13T14:23:46" />
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS (Black—Minister for Environment and Water) (14:23):</by>  Thank you, Mr Speaker. I am aware of all the commentary provided by the royal commissioner and I simply disagree. I disagree because the royal commissioner is not someone who knows everything on this matter. There are many.</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000530">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000531">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000532">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  This idea that a royal commissioner's view and opinion and findings and commentary—</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000533">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339">The Hon. T.J. Whetstone interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000534">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Minister for Primary Industries is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000535">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  —cannot be challenged is ridiculous. It is completely appropriate, completely the right thing to do—</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000536">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000537">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier and Deputy Premier, please!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000538">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  —to challenge opinions that we don't agree with.</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000539">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000540">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000541">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  South Australia—</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000542">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000543">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  The opposition have no faith in our regional communities. They have no faith in the Riverland.</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000544">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000545">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4576" />
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000546">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000547">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  There's a point of order for debate?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000548">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Yes, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000549">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Please be seated again. The minister is being provoked by interjections on both sides. It is a bit rich to get that point of order up, but I will be listening carefully to ensure that he sticks to the substance of the question. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000550">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  The great demonstration of our ability to succeed across the basin when it comes to water efficiencies, on farm or off farm, is South Australia's Riverland. The food producers there have demonstrated that they can achieve what New South Wales and Victoria have been asked to and have agreed to achieve, so they can do that. We have a model in the Riverland. We believe in those food producers. They—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. Bignell</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000551">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. Bignell:</by>  We set it up. We did that. That was our model.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000552">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Mawson is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000553">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  We have that model, and New South Wales and Victoria can follow that model. They can embrace the culture that has been proven in the Riverland over many, many decades. I have no understanding why the opposition can't back the food producers in the Riverland.</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000554">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000555">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000556">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  Cannot back them. They were unable to deliver any extra water for those food producers.</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000557">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000558">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000559">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  They were unable to deliver any extra water for our natural environment—</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000560">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000561">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000562">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  —and their complete misunderstanding of the negotiations and the deal done on 14 December, which will deliver water. It will deliver water across the border. Time will prove this deal correct.</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000563">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000564">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Before I go to the member for Flinders, the member for Badcoe can also leave for half an hour.</text>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000565">
          <term>The honourable member for Badcoe having withdrawn from the chamber:</term>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2019021316397ef7860b40c0a0000566">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Thank you. The member for Flinders and then the deputy leader.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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