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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Meningococcal Disease</name>
      <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000622">
        <heading>Meningococcal Disease</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5376" kind="question">
        <name>Ms STINSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Badcoe</electorate>
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          <question date="2018-12-06">
            <name>Meningococcal Disease</name>
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        <startTime time="2018-12-06T15:14:20" />
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000623">
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          <by role="member" id="5376">Ms STINSON (Badcoe) (15:14):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Child Protection. Have any concerns been raised with the minister or her department about her department's response to instances of meningococcal suffered by children and young people in residential or commercial care?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000624">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Minister for Child Protection—or Minister for Energy and Mining.</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000625">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000626">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Stuart</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
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        <startTime time="2018-12-06T15:14:43" />
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000627">
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          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN (Stuart—Minister for Energy and Mining) (15:14):</by>  Thank you, Mr Speaker. As the—</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000628">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000629">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Leader, please.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000630">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  As the minister—</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000631">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4991">Mr Duluk interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000632">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Waite said something about Oakden. He is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4382" />
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000633">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  As the minister in this house representing the Minister for Health and Wellbeing in the other place, I think it is quite appropriate that I try to share some valuable information with the house on this. Let me—</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000634">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000635">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee is warned for a second time.</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000636">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000637">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000638">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  It is extraordinary that those opposite would think that meningococcal is a child protection issue only and nothing to do with health. It is quite extraordinary.</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000639">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000640">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! Leader, please.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>An honourable member</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000641">
          <by role="office">An honourable member:</by>  Throw him out.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000642">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I might. He doesn't like it when I do.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000643">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  I suppose the first thing we need to look at in regard to meningococcal is the fact that after 16 years in government the former Labor government left South Australia as the only state in the nation that did not have a meningococcal vaccination program. We went to the election with a very clear commitment to address that.</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000644">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4844">Mr Bell interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000645">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Mount Gambier is called to order.</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000646">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000647">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  And the member for Frome.</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000648">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000649">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:  Order!</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000650">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Mr Speaker, that very—</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000651">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000652">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000653">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  —clear commitment—</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000654">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000655">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader is on two warnings.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000656">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  That very clear commitment—</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000657">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000658">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000659">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  —which we made as a decision ourselves—some of them were announced and some of them were not—be very clear, the Minister for Health and Wellbeing—</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000660">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000661">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Don't you want to know? The Minister for Health and Wellbeing did not listen to the calls of those opposite but just said, 'Do it now and do it for all children.' He took genuine, serious advice, and he took advice from clinicians, as he does on these medical issues. He actually announced a program starting on 1 October—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000662">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  There is a point of order. Minister, be seated for one moment, please.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622">
        <name>Dr CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4383" />
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000663">
          <by role="member" id="4622">Dr CLOSE:</by>  The point of order is relevance, given that the question was about non-health facilities management, not a history of meningococcal in South Australia.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000664">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have the point of order. I have allowed the minister some preamble, but I ask him to come back to the substance of the question.</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000665">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000666">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000667">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  In October, the minister implemented a policy to give vaccinations for children from six weeks and up, and also a commitment—</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000668">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. Mullighan interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000669">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee can leave for eight minutes under 137A.</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000670">
          <term>The honourable member for Lee having withdrawn from the chamber:</term>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>An honourable member</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000671">
          <by role="office">An honourable member:</by>  He didn't even see the year out.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000672">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Eight minutes.</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000673">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5384">Mr Patterson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000674">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Morphett can join him for eight minutes.</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000675">
          <event>The honourable member for Morphett having withdrawn from the chamber:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000676">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The minister has the call. I would like to ask another question—</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000677">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000678">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, I am trying to deal with this. If members on my left and right continue to interject, it is hard to do. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000679">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  After announcing in October this year a vaccination policy for children from six weeks to 12 months old, in 2019 there will be a policy for teenage children in the 16 to 17—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000680">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  Point of order: relevance and debate. There was a specific question—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000681">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  That would be 98, yes.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000682">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  —about the management of cases in the child protection portfolio—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000683">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, I have the point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000684">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  —and whether concerns have been raised with the minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000685">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Is the minister wrapping up his answer?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000686">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Sir, this is very relevant to the management of meningococcal.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000687">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Please wrap up your answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000688">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  It is very relevant to the management—</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000689">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000690">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000691">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  —of children with meningococcal.</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000692">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000693">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Please!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000694">
          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  The Minister for Health and Wellbeing—</text>
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000695">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339">The Hon. T.J. Whetstone interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4384" />
        <text id="201812066a8d8dd41a9d4a5390000696">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Minister for Primary Industries and Regional Development is not assisting.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="4342">The Hon. D.C. VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  The Minister for Health and Wellbeing is going about this issue in an incredibly responsible, well-advised way. The benefits of this vaccination program, while those opposite don't seem to care, will be for all children. Those in state care and those not in state care will all benefit from the policies of this government to support children and try to prevent them from contracting meningococcal.</text>
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