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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2018-12-05" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
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  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>KordaMentha</name>
      <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000450">
        <heading>KordaMentha</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4841" kind="question">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kaurna</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2018-12-05">
            <name>KordaMentha</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2018-12-05T14:20:38" />
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000451">
          <timeStamp time="2018-12-05T14:20:38" />
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON (Kaurna) (14:20):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Will the two KordaMentha liquidators, Mr Chris Martin and Mr Mark Mentha, have the power to direct any public servant? Surely that is something you would know, since you are responsible for the Public Sector Act.</text>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000452">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000453">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000454">
          <by role="member" id="4343">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by> Point of order, sir: standing order 97 does—</text>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000455">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000456">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, members on my left! Standing order 97, yes, for?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000457">
          <by role="member" id="4343">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  Several standing orders. These interjections are utterly disorderly but, secondly, standing order 97 does not allow the sort of blatant, gratuitous commentary that was in that question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000458">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Could I have the question again? There was interjection during the question. Could I have the question again, please, member for Kaurna?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000459">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Premier. Will the two KordaMentha liquidators, Mr Chris Martin and Mr Mark Mentha, have the power to direct any public servant?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000460">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier will be seated for one moment. Has the member for Kaurna corrected a potential question that was in breach?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000461">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  Yes.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000462">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Thank you. The member for Kaurna—just so I can understand what's going on—has altered the question. The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2018-12-05T14:21:53" />
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000463">
          <timeStamp time="2018-12-05T14:21:53" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:21):</by>  As you would appreciate, that was, in its most recent form, orderly, unlike the earlier question, which was disorderly.</text>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000464">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000465">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Members on my left will be quiet. The Premier has the call—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000466">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  I have already answered two questions on this line.</text>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000467">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4294" />
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000468">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  —and will be heard in silence.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000469">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  I will give a similar answer to this question as I have to the previous two questions; that is, I am very happy to take up this issue with the Minister for Health and provide an answer to the house.</text>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000470">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000471">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for West Torrens is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000472">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Fourteen minutes in, they have run out of questions. They are asking the same question over and over again. Where are the questions about TAFE or the education system?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000473">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier, there's a point of order. Could the Premier please be seated.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000474">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Debate, sir—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000475">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The point of order is for debate. I have the point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000476">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —and relevance.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000477">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Before I adjudicate on the point of order, I warn the member for the Badcoe for a second and final time. I understand that the Premier has made some comments that may have provoked the opposition, but I ask him to be better behaved than that or members will be departing today. I ask the Premier to respectfully return to the substance of the question. Thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000478">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  The substance of the detailed question would have been better directed, of course, to the Minister for Health in another place, but they have run out of questions. Get on the blower. Ask your mate in the Legislative Council to ask the minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5379" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mrs Power</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000479">
          <by role="member" id="5379">Mrs Power:</by>  Or just read <term>Hansard </term>from yesterday.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000480">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Elder is called to order. The member for Kaurna and then the member for Hammond.</text>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000481">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000482">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, the member for West Torrens is the father of the house and knows better than to act like that. If he continues in this manner, he will be leaving the chamber.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000483">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir: I would ask the Premier to withdraw that insult about mental illness.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000484">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  What was the insult?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000485">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  That I wanted to get therapy, sir. Withdraw it.</text>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000486">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000487">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Angrier and angrier and angrier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000488">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Has the Premier withdrawn that comment?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000489">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Yes.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000490">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier has withdrawn that comment. I would like to get on with question time, if that's okay, members on my left and my right. We will move to the member for Kaurna and then we will switch to the member for Hammond. The member for Kaurna has the call.</text>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000491">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181205829cdcf85c3a4243a0000492">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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