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  <date date="2018-11-14" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
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    <name>Grievance Debate</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Question Time</name>
      <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000747">
        <heading>Question Time</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Lee</electorate>
        <startTime time="2018-11-14T15:33:18" />
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000748">
          <timeStamp time="2018-11-14T15:33:18" />
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN (Lee) (15:33):</by>  Not the only thing to run over time in recent days. I rise to talk about what we witnessed today not an hour ago, and that was the dreadful and deplorable performance by the Deputy Premier and Attorney-General, the member for Bragg, repeatedly refusing to answer legitimate questions put to her on behalf of the absent minister, who, of course, has just erroneously claimed that he was granted a pair by the opposition. I am happy to correct the record on that: that is not correct.</text>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000749">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. Wingard interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
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        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000750">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  And if he complains about what I have just said, Mr Speaker—</text>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000751">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. Wingard interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000752">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:  Order!</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000753">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  —he should stand up and move a matter of privilege, but of course—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. Wingard</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000754">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. Wingard:</by>  You are a disgrace.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000755">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000756">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  —we know the composition of his spine would not be strong enough to allow that to happen.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. Wingard</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000757">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. Wingard:</by>  You're a disgrace.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000758">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000759">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  The fact that repeatedly questions were refused to be answered—</text>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000760">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. Wingard interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000761">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee and the Minister for Police are interjecting.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000762">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  —by the Attorney-General is not good enough. These are exactly—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4991">
        <name>Mr DULUK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000763">
          <by role="member" id="4991">Mr DULUK:</by>  Point of order: it is not appropriate for the member for Lee to reflect on the member for Gibson. I am offended and I ask the member for Lee to withdraw that last statement.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="3679" />
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000764">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Would the Minister for Police like the member for Lee to withdraw any of those comments?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000765">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  I would be pleased to if I could understand—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000766">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  One moment. Stop the clock.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000767">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  —how the member for Waite was offended by how I offended the member for Gibson.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000768">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Would the Minister for Police like those comments to be withdrawn?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000769">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  Yes, I would, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000770">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Lee withdraws. I ask that 30 seconds be—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000771">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  No. He did not rise. He did not take exception to them; another member did, and you have warned—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000772">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000773">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  —repeatedly that that is insufficient.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000774">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, I have the point of order. The member is correct. The member for Waite, the objection must be taken to from the point. However, it was thereabouts, member for Lee. I have then asked the Minister for Police if he—because there were some interjections back and forth—has taken offence. Do you take offence to those words that were uttered?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000775">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  Yes, I do. Yes, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000776">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  He has taken offence, member for Lee. I will add 30 seconds to the clock, member for Lee.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000777">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  I would appreciate it if you do add that time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000778">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000779">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  I withdraw, and I will come to this in a minute, Mr Speaker.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000780">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Thank you, member for Lee.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000781">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  This is an absolute outrage, how this house is being treated during the hour of question time. Today, we had the Deputy Premier repeatedly refusing to answer questions by bogusly claiming that the questions were being put in a manner to threaten some sub judice behaviour of this parliament. That is just wrong, and we know it is wrong because the Deputy Premier herself put these same questions to a government during a question time previously in regard to the Hillier matter.</text>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000782">We know that her point today was bogus because even in her explanation about why she would not answer these questions and why it was somehow separate from the Hillier matter, she tripped herself up with our own reasoning. She claimed today that the Hillier matter was different because her questions then related to the behaviour of departments and government agencies. Well, today there was question after question after question about what the department of corrections had done, what the Parole Board had done and what other agencies of the government had done, namely, the Attorney-General and the Minister for Police—for the short time that he was here.</text>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000783">It is not the only occasion when we see the government thumbing its nose at the most critical part of the parliamentary sitting day—that is, question time. Just for one hour a day we expect those ministers to perform the basic tenet of responsible government and they repeatedly refuse to do so. They do so for varying reasons. It is clear obfuscation by the Deputy Premier, and we have become used to that. It is almost like after 16 years in opposition she has become so verbose and so prolix that she cannot even engage in any plain speaking and answer a question that is put to her.</text>
        <page num="3680" />
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000784">As for the Minister for Police—well, he keeps his own counsel on why he is incapable of answering questions. I am sure we could all put a theory as to why, but I am sure it will go straight through to the keeper, to use one of his sporting analogies. Time after time today, we have had questions about what these ministers knew, what these ministers did, what their departments did and what the Parole Board did. None of those matters is sub judice—none of them whatsoever. We were not down there trying to ascertain what happened at the crime scene. We were not asking questions that went to the accused killer's character. We were asking about the behaviour and the performance of this government in light of this event happening—precisely the same line of questioning about the Hillier matter.</text>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000785">Unfortunately, it is not the only way that this government continues to obfuscate question time. They refuse to answer questions. They are protected from answering questions by the number of Dorothy Dixers and government questions that are taken. Even those are usually out of order. They are usually the read repetition of material that has been published by the government in media releases, especially from the Minister for Energy. Of course, when the opposition raises points of order, there is nothing really to see here. When the government continues to interrupt proceedings by raising points of order—and I have to say that the extraordinary point of order raised by the member for Heysen was beyond the pale. To say that any proceeding of this house, should it so differentiate from his understanding of what happens in the House of Commons, must therefore be out of order is an outrage.</text>
        <text id="2018111486cb26abbb1e4c7cb0000786">We have one hour a day when we expect the responsible ministers of this government to answer questions and they continue to refuse to do so. It is not good enough, and it is not good enough on this matter, and I am sure the behaviour of departments, agencies and perhaps even ministers may have contributed to what happened at Noarlunga Centre.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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