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  <proceeding>
    <name>Question Time</name>
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      <heading>Question Time</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>KordaMentha</name>
      <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000557">
        <heading>KordaMentha</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4841" kind="question">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kaurna</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2018-11-08">
            <name>KordaMentha</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2018-11-08T14:47:11" />
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          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON (Kaurna) (14:47):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Has the Premier personally read either of the KordaMentha reports and, if so, when did he read them?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2018-11-08">
            <name>KordaMentha</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2018-11-08T14:47:23" />
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000559">
          <timeStamp time="2018-11-08T14:47:23" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL (Dunstan—Premier) (14:47):</by>  We're very satisfied with the reports that have been read by KordaMentha. They provide us with a very clear picture of exactly and precisely the mess that we were left by the previous government. I don't have an exact date as to when I read the document, but it is a sad indictment on the previous government. I only wish—</text>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000560">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000561">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000562">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —on behalf of the taxpayers of South Australia that the previous government had commissioned a report into their own mismanagement—dysfunctional and chaotic mismanagement—of the health system in South Australia, then we could have been pushing ahead with reform as quickly as possible. We made it clear on coming to government that we would do everything we could to improve performance of the health system in South Australia. Obviously, there are many things that we need to do, but the principal problem has been with the Central Adelaide Local Health Network.</text>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000563">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5376">Ms Stinson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000564">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Badcoe is on two warnings and close to the edge today. The Premier has the call.</text>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000565">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000566">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Premier has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000567">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  It is important, as you would be aware, sir, to get an accurate picture of what is going on in the Central Adelaide Local Health Network—</text>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000568">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4991">Mr Duluk interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="3480" />
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000569">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Davenport is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000570">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —before we embark on the fix because—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>An honourable member</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000571">
          <by role="office">An honourable member:</by>  The fix?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000572">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Yes, the fix—because there's plenty of work to be done in that area. I think the previous government had an inkling of things going a little bit wrong there. There was the blowout on that site of the new Royal Adelaide Hospital, which was a bit of an indicator as to the problems that existed there. The emergency department problems were well known to the previous government. The design—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000573">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  Point of order, Mr Speaker.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000574">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order; the Premier will be seated. Before I hear the point of order, I call to order and I warn for the second and final time the member for Elizabeth and the member for Reynell. For debate?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000575">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  The question was very clear: has he read it and when did he read it?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000576">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, I have the question—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000577">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  This is debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000578">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Premier, it is about the reading of a report. I expect the Premier—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000579">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  I said I didn't have the date, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000580">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Okay; has the Premier completed his answer?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000581">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Well, I could go on and—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000582">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Will you please wrap it up.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000583">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —talk about some of the things that were canvassed in the diagnostic report because—</text>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000584">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000585">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, members on my left! I'm trying to hear this answer. Members will be departing shortly if this continues.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000586">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  —the emergency department was poorly designed. Clinicians were not consulted. This was a problem with patient flow, which was known to those opposite. We shouldn't have had to go to the cost for taxpayers to find that out because they knew it. We know, for example, that the former health minister, now the Leader of the Opposition, would have known about the very substantial blowout in the Central Adelaide Local Health Network budget for last financial year.</text>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000587">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000588">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader is warned for a second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000589">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  It was hundreds of millions of dollars. It beggars belief that the former minister didn't know what the magnitude of that blowout was. We've got the details now because we had to do the work to find out that information, but the Leader of the Opposition would have known that information. Only he can tell the people of South Australia why he failed to make that clear to the people of South Australia before the election. I suppose there are two issues: (1) he might have said to his department, 'Don't tell me—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000590">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000591">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  There is a point of the order, Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000592">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  Debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000593">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The point of order is for debate. Is the Premier finished?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000594">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  No.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="3481" />
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000595">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Can you please wrap it up.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000596">
          <by role="member" id="4338">The Hon. S.S. MARSHALL:</by>  Another issue that was covered in the report I have received was about the 'no discharge lounge', which, of course, was something which everybody has been advocating for. If the previous government had listened to anybody, it would have been able to incorporate this into the design and we would not be left with the fix.</text>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000597">There was no space for overnight elective sleep services—again, a complete mess, oversight, by the previous government, and we are working through that issue as we speak. The diagnostic report points to the problems. We are now out to the market to make sure that we can get on and fix the problems that we inherited.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20181108aa40a1c72d4f404880000598">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Florey, and I will come back to the member for Kaurna.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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