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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Correctional Services Department</name>
      <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000669">
        <heading>Correctional Services Department</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Lee</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2018-11-06">
            <name>Correctional Services Department</name>
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        <startTime time="2018-11-06T14:04:21" />
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000670">
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          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN (Lee) (14:04):</by>  Has the minister consulted with the Public Service Association—</text>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000671">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4343">The Hon. J.A.W. Gardner interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000672">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Sorry, member for Lee. The Minister for Education is warned. I would like to hear the question. Thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4842" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="3268" />
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000673">
          <by role="member" id="4842">The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN:</by>  Thank you, Mr Speaker. Has the minister consulted with the Public Service Association about his plans to casualise the Corrections' workforce?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Gibson</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Police</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <startTime time="2018-11-06T14:04:32" />
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000674">
          <timeStamp time="2018-11-06T14:04:32" />
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD (Gibson—Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services, Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing) (14:04):</by>  I thank the member for the question. I have had a couple of meetings with the Public Service Association and I was meant to catch up with them again—it might have actually been this week. We have a wonderful relationship, but they cut the courtship short and they cancelled that meeting, so I'm happy to sit down and discuss those issues with them.</text>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000675">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1804">The Hon. V.A. Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000676">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The deputy leader is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000677">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  But, again, I stress the point: we make no apologies on this side about growing our workforce, about creating more jobs, getting more people working and growing our prison system, investing $200 million to have a better prison system because the one that was left behind did need plenty of work. It wasn't in a good shape and we are doing that.</text>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000678">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000679">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, leader!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000680">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  Again, the concern of having more prisoners than prison beds didn't worry those over there. We know they had the theory of rack 'em, stack 'em and pack 'em. Well, we have a different theory, and we want to make sure that we have the right conditions—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000682">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, members on my right!</text>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000683">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000684">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The Minister for Industry is called to order and warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000685">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  Thank you, Mr Speaker. So we have the program in place—</text>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000686">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000687">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Leader!</text>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000688">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4343">The Hon. J.A.W. Gardner interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000689">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Minister for Education!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  —for investing $200 million dollars in our prison system and, despite the interjections that came from those in my previous answer, I was talking about the opportunities we are going to have to grow jobs in this system. Be it in the privately run system at the Adelaide Remand Centre or through the expansion of the Northfield precinct, there will be more jobs in the prison system.</text>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000691">We want to have a better prison system for South Australia, and we will be creating work and employment through that system, not to mention the actual building, the construction jobs and all those things along the way of the expansion project we are doing. This is a really positive program. This will get better results. We will have a better environment to be able to implement our rehabilitation programs. Again, we don't want our prisoners in the rack 'em, stack 'em and pack 'em program. We want to get them into programs where we can help with their rehabilitation, get them back into the community–</text>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000692">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000693">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000694">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  —I hear—</text>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000695">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084">Mr Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000696">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The leader is warned for a second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="3269" />
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000697">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  —the leader yelling out from the other side.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000698">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Please do not respond to interjections, minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000699">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  No, I'm not. I am just—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000700">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The question was about consultation with the PSA—please.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. Bignell</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000701">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. Bignell:</by>  You did. You just did respond. You did respond. Don't say you didn't.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000702">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Mawson is warned for a second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000703">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  Sorry, Mr Speaker. The member for Mawson makes me laugh and I shouldn't. I should stay focused on what we're talking about here.</text>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000704">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. Bignell interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000705">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Mawson, you're on two warnings. I'm listening.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4991" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Duluk</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000706">
          <by role="member" id="4991">Mr Duluk:</by>  Do your button up, Leon. Do your button up.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000707">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Waite is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4843" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.L. WINGARD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018110663ca631db689497d90000708">
          <by role="member" id="4843">The Hon. C.L. WINGARD:</by>  Mr Speaker, again, with all these interjections it is hard to concentrate in this place, but what I will say and the point I will emphasise is that investing in our prison system and growing jobs in our prison system is something that we do not apologise for. We need a better prison system and that is what this government is going to deliver: better services for South Australia.</text>
      </talker>
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