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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Ministerial Staff</name>
      <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000768">
        <heading>Ministerial Staff</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" kind="question">
        <name>Dr CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2018-09-20">
            <name>Ministerial Staff</name>
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        <startTime time="2018-09-20T15:35:47" />
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000769">
          <timeStamp time="2018-09-20T15:35:47" />
          <by role="member" id="4622">Dr CLOSE (Port Adelaide—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (15:35):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Environment and Water. If the minister and his office undertook a competitive merit-based process in the assignment of public sector employees to his office, why did his office direct the department to compile a list of public sector employees who had been assigned to the former minister's office?</text>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000770">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="2696" />
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000771">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, members on my right! Would the minister like to have a go at that question?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Black</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Environment and Water</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2018-09-20T15:36:14" />
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000772">
          <timeStamp time="2018-09-20T15:36:14" />
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS (Black—Minister for Environment and Water) (15:36):</by>  You can't have both—</text>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000773">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000774">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000775">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  When a minister initially takes office—</text>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000776">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000777">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000778">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  —there is a need to second people from the department to create that skeleton workforce to support the minister in the execution of their duties in the short term until a merit-based process is undertaken. That is the way it works. The member for Port Adelaide—</text>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000779">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000780">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, members on my left! I am trying to hear this answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000781">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  The member for Port Adelaide would be very familiar with this. She is one of those people who moved from revolving door to revolving door between ministerial office and Public Service with huge questions hanging over the merit-based selection process as to how she ended up as an executive director. She had—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622">
        <name>Dr CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000782">
          <by role="member" id="4622">Dr CLOSE:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000783">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Minister, please be seated. I take it that the member has taken offence to the comments made about merit-based selection.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622">
        <name>Dr CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000784">
          <by role="member" id="4622">Dr CLOSE:</by>  Absolutely.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000785">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have it and I respectfully—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622">
        <name>Dr CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000786">
          <by role="member" id="4622">Dr CLOSE:</by>  I have had a competitive approach for every single job I have undertaken.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000787">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have it and I respectfully ask—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622">
        <name>Dr CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000788">
          <by role="member" id="4622">Dr CLOSE:</by>  How dare you!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000789">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have the point of order.</text>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000790">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000791">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! I respectfully—</text>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000792">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000793">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Members on my left and right will be quiet. I respectfully ask the minister to withdraw those most recent remarks about that issue and please—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000794">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  I will withdraw it, but I—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000795">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000796">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  I withdraw—</text>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000797">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000798">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The minister has withdrawn.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000799">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  —but I ask that the member for Hurtle Vale withdraw her point.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000800">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  One moment, minister. This is the last question of question time until estimates. Please get on with answering the question, the substance of the question. Members on my left will cease interjecting or they will booted out, regardless of whether they have grieves coming up. The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="2697" />
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000801">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  Mr Speaker, I have finished providing my answer, but I do ask that the member for Hurtle Vale withdraw her disgraceful assertion that I have a problem with women, which is the—</text>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000802">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000803">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  One moment. Please be seated. Will the member for Hurtle Vale please withdraw that comment?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978">
        <name>Ms COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000804">
          <by role="member" id="4978">Ms COOK:</by>  I withdraw the comment—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000805">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978">
        <name>Ms COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000806">
          <by role="member" id="4978">Ms COOK:</by>  —that I said, which was not that. I did not say that he had a problem with women.</text>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000807">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000808">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  One moment. I will hear it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978">
        <name>Ms COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000809">
          <by role="member" id="4978">Ms COOK:</by>  I said that it was because she was a woman. That doesn't mean he's got a problem with women. It's how you interpret that.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000810">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Is the minister offended by that, or will you get on with answering the question?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000811">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  Absolutely offended. I do not understand the motivation behind the member for Hurtle Vale's assertion.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000812">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The member for Hurtle Vale, I ask you to withdraw.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978">
        <name>Ms COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000813">
          <by role="member" id="4978">Ms COOK:</by>  I will withdraw that comment.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000814">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Thank you. Minister, please get on with answering the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000815">
          <by role="member" id="4837">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  I've finished answering the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000816">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  You've finished.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000817">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  Point of order: you asked him to withdraw and apologise.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000818">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I asked him to withdraw.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4841">
        <name>Mr PICTON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000819">
          <by role="member" id="4841">Mr PICTON:</by>  He did not apologise.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000820">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I asked him to withdraw, and he did withdraw.</text>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000821">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2018092076597068db34499980000822">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I heard him say 'I withdraw.' The question before the house is that the house note grievances. I respectfully ask members to please leave quietly so that I can give the Leader of the Opposition the call. It is a miracle he is still here, but he is behaving very well and deserves to be heard in silence. Please leave quietly. The Leader of the Opposition.</text>
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