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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Electricity Prices</name>
      <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000443">
        <heading>Electricity Prices</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="question">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Stuart</electorate>
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          <question date="2017-11-01">
            <name>Electricity Prices</name>
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        <startTime time="2017-11-01T15:03:47" />
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          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN (Stuart) (15:03):</by>  Supplementary: does the minister agree with the head of GFG Alliance, Mr Sanjeev Gupta, who told the International Mining and Resources Conference in Melbourne yesterday that Australia has 'the highest cost energy environment in the world' and that South Australia has the most expensive electricity in the nation?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Finance</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy</name>
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          <question date="2017-11-01">
            <name>Electricity Prices</name>
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        <startTime time="2017-11-01T15:04:08" />
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          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Treasurer, Minister for Finance, Minister for State Development, Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy) (15:04):</by>  I don't accept that Mr Gupta said that about South Australia, but I do note that the shadow minister just quoted Mr Gupta as having said that.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000447">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  No, no. He's just changed the question now. He quotes to the parliament that Mr Gupta said at an event that Australia had the highest prices in the world and that South Australia had the highest prices in Australia, according to Mr Gupta, and he knows that wasn't true.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000448">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Point of order: I ask the minister to apologise and withdraw.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000449">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  For what words?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000450">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  For saying that I 'know that is not true' in parliament. He has just accused me of lying, sir. <term>Hansard</term> will bear me out and I will read it again.</text>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000451">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000452">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  You apologise.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000453">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  No, I am afraid those words are not equivalent, at least under Erskine May, to calling the member for Stuart a liar.</text>
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        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000454">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  May I reread the question sir?</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000455">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  No, you may not. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="11814" />
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000456">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Thank you very much.</text>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000457">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4847">Mr Knoll interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000458">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I welcome the junior shadow minister asking me a question any time he likes. I think the shadow minister, just like the day when he made the leader correct himself live on television that the savings were not actually $300, that the do-nothing option gave the biggest saving—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000459">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Point of order: standing order 98.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000460">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Debate.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000461">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Debate and the answer having nothing to do with the substance of the question.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000462">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Well, there is that.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000463">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Mr Gupta also endorsed a 50 per cent renewable energy target.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. Weatherill</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000464">
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. Weatherill:</by>  He didn't quote that one.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000465">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  No, he didn't quote that. I will be looking forward to getting the quotes Mr Gupta made, comparing them with the question the shadow minister asked and we will see who is correct and who is wrong.</text>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000466">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000467">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Stuart and the Treasurer are both warned. The Speaker won't tolerate quarrels in the house.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000468">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  Unless he's involved.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2017110175e1a6ed7eab47a390000469">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, exactly. Member for Stuart.</text>
      </talker>
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