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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Building Audit</name>
      <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000654">
        <heading>Building Audit</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="3124" kind="question">
        <name>Mr PISONI</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Unley</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2017-09-26">
            <name>Building Audit</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2017-09-26T15:25:55" />
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          <by role="member" id="3124">Mr PISONI (Unley) (15:25):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Will the Premier now organise the release of the audit into buildings in Adelaide identified as being clad with aluminium composite panels and, if not, could he explain why not?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Enfield</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Attorney-General</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Justice Reform</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Planning</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection Reform</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Public Sector</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Consumer and Business Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the City of Adelaide</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2017-09-26">
            <name>Building Audit</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2017-09-26T15:26:14" />
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000656">
          <timeStamp time="2017-09-26T15:26:14" />
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU (Enfield—Deputy Premier, Attorney-General, Minister for Justice Reform, Minister for Planning, Minister for Industrial Relations, Minister for Child Protection Reform, Minister for the Public Sector, Minister for Consumer and Business Services, Minister for the City of Adelaide) (15:26):</by>  Mr Speaker, it isn't my birthday, is it? It feels that way.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000657">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  It's the Deputy Premier's show today.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000658">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  It's been quite a day, but can I assure Mr Bevan, if he is watching, that I am not doing this just for his benefit. These are not prearranged questions for me. The situation in relation to the cladding—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000659">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Deputy Premier will, by extension of the rule against referring to people in the gallery—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000660">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  Stop referring to Mr Bevan.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000661">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I call the Deputy Premier to order for referring to a person amongst our vast listening audience.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="11083" />
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000662">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  Very well. Thank you. I consider myself duly chastised. In relation to the cladding, we went through a process, which I think I explained a few weeks back, in the company of the Lord Mayor and the head of the MFS. The process was to go through and identify—we are starting with the city—when I am talking about the city I mean the Corporation of the City of Adelaide—and we are looking at multistorey buildings because Adelaide is where most of the multistorey buildings are, so we are starting there.</text>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000663">We started off with about 4,000 buildings. We then collapsed that number to the point where there were, I think, 77 buildings, which were of further interest. By 'further interest' we don't mean there is something wrong with them, we don't mean they are unsafe, we mean they warrant further consideration. That's all we mean. That was phase 1 of the audit we have undertaken. We are now in phase 2. We are actually going to individual buildings and what we are doing is looking at those buildings and asking ourselves a question like: has the Australian building and construction code been observed in the construction method applied to this building?</text>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000664">Because, if it has, it is important to recognise that the material that people are interested in is not illegal or dangerous per se. This material is illegal in some circumstances. It is dangerous if not used in accordance with appropriate building rules, but if employed appropriately with appropriate building rules, like fire escapes and appropriate sprinklers and all these other things, which our building code does provide for, then these products are not unsafe products.</text>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000665">What we are doing is working through that phase now. What I have not sought to do and what the government has been at pains not to do, contrary to the opposition and in particular the member for Bragg, is to try to alarm people who live in multistorey buildings in the City of Adelaide—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000666">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  Point of order, standing order 98: the minister is no longer answering the question but debating the issue and impugning improper motive on members, including the deputy leader.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000667">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Imputing improper motive.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000668">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  Imputing improper motive—correct, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000669">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I am confident of that: it's not an imputation, really, but I can withdraw it if you want.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000670">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I will listen carefully.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000671">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  The point is this: we don't want to run around alarming and frightening people who probably are living—almost certainly according to the MFS, I might add—in perfectly safe buildings.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000672">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000673">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I am answering the question, Mr Speaker.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000674">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I think the Deputy Premier appears to be being germane. It was what he was asked, isn't it?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000675">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  In saying that we don't want to do and then going on to repeat the allegation he had immediately made before, he was repeating the offence, in my view.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000676">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  In that the Deputy Premier was imputing that the opposition was scaring people?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000677">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  He even named members.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000678">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I would counsel the minister against that.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000679">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  Can I say for the benefit of our new viewers that I was only talking about those people to whom this comment refers and I will allow those who listen to the radio to work out who I am talking about. Those people who have been deliberately trying to frighten people who live in multistorey buildings, completely reckless as to the impact it has on those people's property values, reckless as to how they feel—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000680">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member's time, alas, has expired.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170926199433ca33ab4ed6a0000681">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  What a shame.</text>
      </talker>
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