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    <name>Bills</name>
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      <name>Summary Offences (Interviewing Vulnerable Witnesses) Amendment Bill</name>
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        <bill id="r4140">
          <name>Summary Offences (Interviewing Vulnerable Witnesses) Amendment Bill</name>
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      <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000764">
        <heading>Summary Offences (Interviewing Vulnerable Witnesses) Amendment Bill</heading>
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      <subproceeding>
        <name>Introduction and First Reading</name>
        <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000765">
          <heading>Introduction and First Reading</heading>
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        <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="speech">
          <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <electorate id="">Enfield</electorate>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Deputy Premier</name>
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            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
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            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Justice Reform</name>
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            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Planning</name>
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            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Child Protection Reform</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for the Public Sector</name>
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            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Consumer and Business Services</name>
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            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for the City of Adelaide</name>
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          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000766">
            <timeStamp time="2017-05-31T15:43:30" />
            <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU (Enfield—Deputy Premier, Attorney-General, Minister for Justice Reform, Minister for Planning, Minister for Industrial Relations, Minister for Child Protection Reform, Minister for the Public Sector, Minister for Consumer and Business Services, Minister for the City of Adelaide) (15:43):</by>  Obtained leave and introduced a bill for an act to amend the Summary Offences Act 1953. Read a first time.</text>
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      </subproceeding>
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        <name>Second Reading</name>
        <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000767">
          <heading>Second Reading</heading>
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        <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="speech">
          <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <electorate id="">Enfield</electorate>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Deputy Premier</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Justice Reform</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Planning</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Child Protection Reform</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for the Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Consumer and Business Services</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for the City of Adelaide</name>
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          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000768">
            <timeStamp time="2017-05-31T15:43:30" />
            <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU (Enfield—Deputy Premier, Attorney-General, Minister for Justice Reform, Minister for Planning, Minister for Industrial Relations, Minister for Child Protection Reform, Minister for the Public Sector, Minister for Consumer and Business Services, Minister for the City of Adelaide) (15:43):</by>  I move:</text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000769">
            <inserted>That this bill be now read a second time.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text continued="true" id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000770">The Summary Offences (Interviewing Vulnerable Witnesses) Amendment Bill 2017 amends the Summary Offences Act 1953. The bill addresses a potential gap in the Statutes Amendment (Vulnerable Witnesses) Act 2015 arising from the recent Supreme Court decision. In light of this decision and recent changes in SAPOL operational practices, legislative amendment is prudent to provide for the explicit admissibility of a video interview with a vulnerable party in criminal proceedings for all offences, not just, as at present, for a 'serious offence against the person'. I seek leave to have the remainder of the second reading explanation inserted in <term>Hansard </term>without my reading it.</text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000771">Leave granted.</text>
          <page num="9976" />
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000772">
            <inserted>A 'serious offence against the person' in this context is a sexual or serious violent offence or a breach of an intervention or restraint order or stalking but not such other offences as assault or assault causing harm under s 20 of the <term>Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935</term>. A 'vulnerable party' in this context is 'a person with a disability that adversely affects the person's capacity to give a coherent account of the person's experiences or to respond rationally to questions.'</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000773">
            <inserted>The Bill explicitly authorises the taking and use of a video interview with a vulnerable party for all offences and is not confined, as at the present, to a 'serious offence against the person'. The Bill provides that it is an issue for the investigator's discretion whether to take a video interview with a vulnerable party for other than a serious offence against the person. The Bill extends to those video interviews with a vulnerable party for other than a serious offence against the person conducted between 1 July 2016 when the <term>Statutes Amendment (Vulnerable Witnesses) Act 2015</term> commended and the date on which the Bill will come into effect.</inserted>
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          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000774">
            <inserted>The <term>Statutes Amendment (Vulnerable Witnesses) Act 2015</term> (and the supporting Regulations) now require that the account of a vulnerable party for a 'serious offence against the person' to be taken by a specially trained investigator in the form of a video interview. This video is expressly admissible under the 2015 Act at the court's discretion at trial in lieu of examination in chief. There is only express provision in the 2015 Act for the admissibility of a video interview with a vulnerable party for a 'serious offence against the person'. There are no express provisions regarding other offences. </inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000775">
            <inserted>The <term>Statutes Amendment (Attorney General's Portfolio) Act 2016</term> in its transitional scheme sought to provide that video interviews with vulnerable parties conducted under the old law before 1 July 2016 remained admissible after 1 July 2016 in respect of all offences. This construction was accepted by the Supreme Court, however a potential gap was identified regarding offences other than a 'serious offence against the person'.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000776">
            <inserted>Legislative amendment is prudent to make it clear that video interviews with a vulnerable witness to any offence are admissible. </inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000777">
            <inserted>The Bill explicitly authorises the taking and use of a video interview with a vulnerable party for all offences. The Bill provides it is an issue for the investigator's discretion whether to take a video interview with a vulnerable party for other than a serious offence against the person but, if one is taken; any video is explicitly admissible in a court's discretion. </inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000778">
            <inserted>The Bill also provides for the taking and use of video interviews conducted with a vulnerable party for other than a serious offence against the person between 1 July 2016 and the date on which the Bill comes into effect with the Governor's assent. Without such a provision, there is a likelihood that any such video interviews may be inadmissible requiring a vulnerable witness for other than a serious offence against the person to provide their account at trial in the usual way. This is undesirable.  </inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000779">
            <inserted>The Bill also supports recent developments in the context and prosecution of cases involving family violence. An example where an interview with a vulnerable party will be explicitly admissible under the Bill is a 10 year old child who witnesses his or her mother assaulted by their father and the resulting charge is assault causing harm, not a serious offence against the person.   </inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000780">
            <inserted>The Bill maintains an accused's right to a fair trial. The defence right to cross-examine a vulnerable party is fully retained. Any video interview with a vulnerable party for other than a serious offence against the person is only admissible in the court's discretion and if the vulnerable witness is available for cross-examination.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000781">
            <inserted>The Bill provides further support to vulnerable parties, namely children aged under 15 or a person with an intellectual disability, within the criminal justice system. </inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000782">
            <inserted>I commend the Bill to the House.</inserted>
          </text>
          <bookmark>Explanation of Clauses</bookmark>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000783">
            <inserted>
              <subheading>Explanation of Clauses</subheading>
            </inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000784">
            <item>
              <inserted>Part 1—Preliminary</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000785">
            <item>
              <inserted>1—Short title</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000786">
            <item>
              <inserted>2—Amendment provisions</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000787">
            <inserted>These clauses are formal. There being no commencement clause, this measure will come into operation on the day on which it is assented to by the Governor.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000788">
            <item>
              <inserted>Part 2—Amendment of <term>Summary Offences Act 1953</term></inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000789">
            <item>
              <inserted>3—Section 74EC—Admissibility of evidence of interview</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000790">
            <inserted>The first 2 proposed amendments to section 74EC are technical and clarify that a 'prescribed person' is a 'prescribed interviewer'. The other proposed amendments are more substantial. Section 74EC of the Act currently provides that the admissibility of evidence of an interview between a vulnerable witness and a prescribed person is, for the purposes of section 13BA of the <term>Evidence Act 1929</term>, restricted to the investigation of a serious offence against the person. The proposed amendments will broaden this to provide for a court to have discretion to admit evidence of an interview between a vulnerable witness and a prescribed person in relation to the investigation of any other offence if the requirements of the section are followed in relation to the conduct of the interview.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000791">
            <item>
              <inserted>Schedule 1—Transitional provision</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <page num="9977" />
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000792">
            <item>
              <inserted>1—Transitional provision</inserted>
            </item>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000793">
            <inserted>The transitional provision will make provision for the admission of an audio visual record of a statement of a vulnerable witness to whom the clause applies made to an investigating officer after the commencement of Part 5 of the <term>Statutes Amendment (Vulnerable Witnesses) Act 2015</term> and before the commencement of Part 2 of this measure as part of a formal interview process in relation to the investigation of an alleged offence (other than a serious offence against the person). The audio visual record of the statement may be admissible under section 13BA of the <term>Evidence Act 1929</term> as evidence in the trial of a charge of the offence as if the recording had been made pursuant to Division 3 of Part 17 of the <term>Summary Offences Act 1953</term> in accordance with the requirements of that Division as in force following the commencement of Part 2 of this measure.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="2017053188f3fba2b4a9479490000794">Debate adjourned on motion of Mr Treloar.</text>
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