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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Royal Adelaide Hospital</name>
      <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000306">
        <heading>Royal Adelaide Hospital</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
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            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2017-05-16">
            <name>Royal Adelaide Hospital</name>
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        <startTime time="2017-05-16T14:31:52" />
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000307">
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          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL (Dunstan—Leader of the Opposition) (14:31):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Health. Given that clinicians at the Royal Adelaide Hospital estimate that 20 to 30 per cent less (or fewer) outpatient activities—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000308">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I am getting somewhere.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000309">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  —will be delivered at the new Royal Adelaide Hospital compared with the current site, where will the balance of outpatient activity that cannot be delivered at the new Royal Adelaide Hospital be delivered?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Playford</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Arts</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health Industries</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2017-05-16T14:32:15" />
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000310">
          <timeStamp time="2017-05-16T14:32:15" />
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING (Playford—Minister for Health, Minister for the Arts, Minister for Health Industries) (14:32):</by>  My advice is that 90 per cent of the current outpatient activity at the Royal Adelaide Hospital will be accommodated and is able to be accommodated at the new Royal Adelaide Hospital. There will be some outpatient activity which will be provided elsewhere.</text>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000311">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339">Mr Whetstone interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000312">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Chaffey is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="9674" />
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000313">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  Roughly 10 per cent of outpatient activity will be provided elsewhere. We are looking at and working with our clinicians on what the options are with that, but we have existing health sites all around metropolitan Adelaide. We have to remember that—</text>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000314">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3124">Mr Pisoni interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000315">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I call the member for Unley to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000316">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  —people coming into the Royal Adelaide Hospital for outpatient appointments will be coming from not only all over metropolitan Adelaide but all over the state. The Royal Adelaide Hospital is not necessarily going to be the most convenient or appropriate place for those outpatient appointments to occur.</text>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000317">With regard to outpatients, I am pretty sure I have spoken to this issue in question time before but, just to reiterate, we are asking our clinicians to provide outpatient service in a way that is actually centred on the patient, in a way that is convenient for the patient. Anyone going to an outpatient appointment at the Royal Adelaide Hospital at the moment will know it's a nightmare. It's very, very hard to find your way. It could be anywhere on a sprawling campus. It can be very—</text>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000318">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3124">Mr Pisoni interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000319">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Unley is warned.</text>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000320">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1805">Mr Goldsworthy interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000321">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Kavel is warned. He will not amplify his out of order remarks by cupping his hand.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000322">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  The old Royal Adelaide Hospital is inadequate and this side of the house has been arguing that it's inadequate for the last 10 years. It's the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition who have been in complete denial about the need for a new hospital. We have never made a secret of the fact that the old Royal Adelaide Hospital is inadequate to provide a modern health service.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000323">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000324">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  It has been the opposition that's been in denial on this issue.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000325">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The minister will be seated. I imagine the member for Unley is as concerned by the Leader of the Opposition's repeated interjections as I am.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124">
        <name>Mr PISONI</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000326">
          <by role="member" id="3124">Mr PISONI:</by>  I didn't actually hear those, sir.</text>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000327">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000328">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Wright is called to order.</text>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000329">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000330">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I am listening to a point of order from the member for Unley. He has my full attention.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124">
        <name>Mr PISONI</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000331">
          <by role="member" id="3124">Mr PISONI:</by>  I was asking if you could bring the minister back to the substance of the question and stop debating, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000332">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Well, it was a bit of argy-bargy on both sides. I thought both sides were enjoying it. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000333">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  Indeed, Mr Speaker. We make no apologies for the fact that, for the last 10 years on this side of the house, we have been arguing consistently that the old Royal Adelaide Hospital does not live up to the standards—</text>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000334">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000335">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  The infrastructure there does not live up to the standards required of a modern health system. It has been the opposition that has been in denial on this particular issue.</text>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000336">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000337">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  The Leader of the Opposition can scream all he likes. I know he has night sweats about this particular issue because he knows how popular the new Royal Adelaide Hospital is going to be when he has to present to the South Australian voters in March next year, despite the fact that this side of the house has been arguing against it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000338">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Point of order: 98, Mr Speaker.</text>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000339">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000340">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Treasurer is called to order. I uphold the point of order. Is the minister finished?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000341">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  No, Mr Speaker. To go to an outpatient appointment at the old Royal Adelaide Hospital required traversing a large campus to try to find where to go. At the new Royal Adelaide Hospital, all outpatient clinics are consolidated, and we make no apology for that, because that is what is going to be most convenient for patients presenting to the new Royal Adelaide Hospital for their outpatient appointments.</text>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000342">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4847">Mr Knoll interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000343">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  We are doing it because it's good for patients. On this side of the house we are actually interested in the patients who present to the hospital, rather than just sticking up for a few small interests. The Liberal Party just doesn't get it. It doesn't get health in this state, it is not interested in health care in this state.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000344">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Alas, the member's time has expired. I might have warned the member for Schubert, but I had a lovely weekend in his electorate, so I have decided not to.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4847" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Knoll</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000345">
          <by role="member" id="4847">Mr Knoll:</by>  Did Freeling win anything?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201705169a275f3791ba4989b0000346">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I don't think they did, no—no grade, neither firsts, nor reserves, nor under 17s.</text>
      </talker>
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