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  <sessionName>Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Australian Energy Market Operator Report</name>
      <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000505">
        <heading>Australian Energy Market Operator Report</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
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            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2017-02-16">
            <name>Australian Energy Market Operator Report</name>
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        <startTime time="2017-02-16T14:23:12" />
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000506">
          <timeStamp time="2017-02-16T14:23:12" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL (Dunstan—Leader of the Opposition) (14:23):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy. Can the minister confirm which parliament sets the legislation that establishes the national energy rules, rules which he describes as being broken?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Finance</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2017-02-16">
            <name>Australian Energy Market Operator Report</name>
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        <startTime time="2017-02-16T14:23:28" />
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          <timeStamp time="2017-02-16T14:23:28" />
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Treasurer, Minister for Finance, Minister for State Development, Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy) (14:23):</by>  I will give a brief lesson to the Leader of the Opposition on the intergovernmental arrangements for the COAG process. The COAG Energy Council is made up of all jurisdictions, and those jurisdictions that are members—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000509">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Hang on a second.</text>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000510">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000511">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Hang on a second.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. Snelling</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000512">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. Snelling:</by>  Listen and you might learn something, Steven.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000513">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Minister for Health is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000514">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  It is very, very important that the Leader of the Opposition asks that question because it says a lot about his motives. He knows full well—</text>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000515">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339">Mr Whetstone interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000516">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Chaffey is warned.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000517">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  He knows full well that all national reforms have a lead legislating jurisdiction. Sometimes it is the commonwealth, sometimes it is Victoria, sometimes it is Queensland, sometimes it is South Australia or other jurisdictions. We are the lead legislator in this state. All legislation is agreed by the COAG. We don't make the decisions here in our cabinet on our own; they are made—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000519">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Members laugh. They are laughing at the bills they voted for. This is the process of thought that they have. They have been in opposition for 15 years. They have been briefed on—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000520">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Treasurer's druzhina will not help him.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000521">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  They get briefed on the COAG processes. They get briefed on the COAG reports. Indeed, the deputy leader has turned up to COAG meetings. I remember when I was transport minister, she came to a COAG meeting ready for the induction into the COAG. It was the inauguration of the deputy leader. Of course, she wasn't banking on the leader telling everyone to vote Labor but, apart from that, she attended, so she knows the way that this is structured. Of course, importantly, members opposite are briefed on all of this.</text>
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000522">When we come together as a country and set the rules for the National Electricity Market, we do so by consensus. Those rules are no longer working for us. Is the leader really saying that we should be saying that because we are lead legislator, we can't exercise our sovereignty; because we are lead legislator, we can't criticise the National Electricity Market; because we are lead legislator, we can't attract privatisation; because we are lead legislator, we can't say privatisation isn't working; because we are lead legislator, we can't say AEMO dropped the ball; because we are lead legislator, we can't say that the market isn't working for Australians anymore? Why is that? Why can't we say that? We are a sovereign state and we will exercise our sovereignty.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="8575" />
        <text id="20170216c7db05d9c243401da0000524">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The members for Davenport and Chaffey are warned for the second and final time. The member for Stuart is still with us.</text>
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