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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Dairy Concessional Loans</name>
      <page num="7375" />
      <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000512">
        <heading>Dairy Concessional Loans</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4844" kind="question">
        <name>Mr BELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Mount Gambier</electorate>
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          <question date="2016-10-20">
            <name>Dairy Concessional Loans</name>
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        <startTime time="2016-10-20T14:28:23" />
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000513">
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          <by role="member" id="4844">Mr BELL (Mount Gambier) (14:28):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Agriculture. Why doesn't PIRSA recognise water licenses as an asset for the purpose of assessing dairy concessional loans?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Mawson</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Agriculture</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Forests</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Tourism</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Recreation and Sport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Racing</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2016-10-20">
            <name>Dairy Concessional Loans</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2016-10-20T14:28:40" />
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000514">
          <timeStamp time="2016-10-20T14:28:40" />
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL (Mawson—Minister for Agriculture, Food and Fisheries, Minister for Forests, Minister for Tourism, Minister for Recreation and Sport, Minister for Racing) (14:28):</by>  I thank the member for Mount Gambier for the question. As I understand it, the way the assets are assessed in South Australia is that it's taken as dryland farm that has water on it, so it is seen as a complete asset, as opposed to some other states where they take the dryland farm as one asset and the water licence for that asset.</text>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000515">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1805">Mr Goldsworthy interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000516">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Kavel is warned for the second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000517">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL:</by>  I am just explaining what the case is here at the moment. I have written to the Minister for Water and Resources to see if we can look at changing the way things are done here. I have also written again to—</text>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000518">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339">Mr Whetstone interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000519">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Chaffey is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000520">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL:</by>  I've also written again to the federal Minister for Agriculture, Barnaby Joyce, because—</text>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000521">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339">Mr Whetstone interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000522">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Chaffey is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000523">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL:</by>  —to repeat a request I made earlier in the year, that is, that the federal government administer all of these schemes around Australia so that there is consistency right across—</text>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000524">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000525">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL:</by>  Thanks for the interjection. I just said I've written to the minister—</text>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000526">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4340">Ms Sanderson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000527">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL:</by>  —to ask if we can change it. No—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000528">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Adelaide is called to order.</text>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000529">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000530">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL:</by>  Well, they are not our rules. They are not our rules. So, what we are doing is we are having a look at that. Having grown up in the South-East on a dairy farm—</text>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000531">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339">Mr Whetstone interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000532">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Chaffey is warned for the second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000533">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL:</by>  —I'm acutely aware of how hard our farmers work, particularly our dairy farmers, and how hard it's been since the processors that they deal with, Murray Goulburn, and Fonterra from over in New Zealand—let's remember, the state government and the federal government aren't the bad guys in this. We are the ones in there trying to help. If the—</text>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000534">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000535">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Mount Gambier is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="7376" />
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000536">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL:</by>  We are looking at the inconsistencies and if there's a better way of doing it. What I must also say is that we were the first government in Australia when these farmers were hit so hard around Australia by Murray Goulburn and Fonterra to get out there with a package. It was a $60,000 package to help people with the mental health issues that we know come with such a huge financial shock. There was also financial counselling offered up to people as well to help them get across it. What we would like to see is more people apply. We've only had six applicants so far, and we know that there are over 250—</text>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000537">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000538">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL:</by>  There's six who have applied: two have been successful, one has been rejected, and the others are under consideration. What we want to do is have people apply so that we can then work out, if there's a reason they are not getting it, what that reason is, but you can't count an asset twice. So, if it has already been counted—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4844" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Bell</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000539">
          <by role="member" id="4844">Mr Bell:</by>  It's not counting it the first time. You're counting land value.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20161020d2858dd45d3046a690000540">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL:</by>  My understanding is that it is being counted because they are taking into consideration a farm that has water on that farm. That's my understanding. I've asked some more questions, and we want to get to the bottom of this because what we want to do is make sure we get these farmers who have been dealt such a cruel blow by the private sector—by those people who buy their milk and then at their whim just say, 'We're not going to pay you the amount we promised we would pay you, and we want back payment for the past 46 weeks.' They have been treated appallingly, we want to help them and we will work through the issue.</text>
      </talker>
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