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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Women's and Children's Hospital</name>
      <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000378">
        <heading>Women's and Children's Hospital</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
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            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2016-05-25">
            <name>Women's and Children's Hospital</name>
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        <startTime time="2016-05-25T14:15:39" />
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000379">
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          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL (Dunstan—Leader of the Opposition) (14:15):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Health. For what period of time were the non-sterilised syringes being used at the Women's and Children's Hospital? Was it 13 instances isolated to one period of time three years ago or was there a series of instances of infection control breaches over a matter of weeks, months or maybe even years?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Playford</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Arts</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health Industries</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2016-05-25">
            <name>Women's and Children's Hospital</name>
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        <startTime time="2016-05-25T14:16:16" />
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000380">
          <timeStamp time="2016-05-25T14:16:16" />
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING (Playford—Minister for Health, Minister for the Arts, Minister for Health Industries) (14:16):</by>  The information I have is that 13 children were affected by it and that is the limit of it. Over what period of time? I am more than happy to have a look and get back to the house, but it was only 13 children who were involved.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000382">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Unley will soon debouch out of the confines of this chamber. I call him into order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000383">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  It was only 13. It is important to note that the new procedure that was—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000384">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  When did they occur?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000385">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  I know the Leader of the Opposition wants to hang out to dry our doctors and nurses, but that is not—</text>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000386">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000387">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  Then if you ask serious questions, listen to the answers. Give me the courtesy of listening to the answers.</text>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000388">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000389">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  Do me the courtesy of listening to the answers, rather than screaming like a banshee across the chamber.</text>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000390">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000391">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  If you're interested in the answer—</text>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000392">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000393">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Unley is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000394">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  —give me an opportunity to answer without screaming out every time I try to utter a word.</text>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000395">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000396">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  Can you keep quiet for even a few seconds—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000397">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The minister will leave the disciplining of the chamber to me.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000398">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  Certainly, Mr Speaker, I am happy to, but it is rather difficult to respond to what is a serious matter when the Leader of the Opposition persists in screaming over the top of me. It is important to note that the new procedure that was put in place resulted in a significant reduction—a 50 per cent reduction—in infection.</text>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000399">With regard to the children who were infected, the chances of them having caught an infection because of this lapse in procedure was very, very remote. I repeat what I said yesterday: I think the Women's and Children's Hospital has acted in an exemplary way with regard to this matter.</text>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000400">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000401">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000402">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  They have immediately, as soon as they became aware that there was an issue—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000403">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000404">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  I ask that you instruct the minister to return to the substance of the question: when did the breaches occur?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000405">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I don't think the minister has strayed very far from it. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000406">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  As soon as the Women's and Children's Hospital became aware that there was an issue with regard to this matter, they acted appropriately and quickly. They contacted the 13 families—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3118" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Griffiths</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000407">
          <by role="member" id="3118">Mr Griffiths:</by>  If you have the information in front of you, read it out, then.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000408">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Is the member for Goyder having a conversation with himself or interjecting?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3118" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Griffiths</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000409">
          <by role="member" id="3118">Mr Griffiths:</by>  I'm trying to demonstrate, the minister referred to paper on his desk, sir. He should have the information in front of him.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000410">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Goyder is called to order. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000411">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  When the matter was alluded to, the chief executive of the hospital immediately implemented an open disclosure policy and contacted the 13 families. The matter was briefed up to me—</text>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000412">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3124">Mr Pisoni interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000413">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Unley is warned for the second and the final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000414">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  And the media release was—</text>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000415">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5651" />
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000416">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  And the leader is warned for the second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000417">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  The media release was put out—</text>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000418">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3119">The Hon. T.R. Kenyon interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000419">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  And the member for Newland is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000420">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  Can I say that this is textbook handling of an issue when they arise, and I commend all those involved for dealing with what is a difficult issue extremely professionally and very well.</text>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000421">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1807">Dr McFetridge interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160525533d47a713ee40dba0000422">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Morphett is called to order.</text>
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