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  <date date="2016-04-14" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2)</sessionName>
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    <name>Bills</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Real Property (Electronic Conveyancing) Amendment Bill</name>
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        <bill id="r3926">
          <name>Real Property (Electronic Conveyancing) Amendment Bill</name>
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      <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001288">
        <heading>Real Property (Electronic Conveyancing) Amendment Bill</heading>
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        <name>Second Reading</name>
        <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001289">
          <heading>Second Reading</heading>
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        <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001290">Adjourned debate on second reading.</text>
        <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001291">(Continued from 9 March 2016.)</text>
        <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="speech">
          <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <electorate id="">Bragg</electorate>
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            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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            <timeStamp time="2016-04-14T18:19:04" />
            <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN (Bragg—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (18:19):</by>  I indicate that I expect to be the only speaker for the opposition and we will be supporting this bill. Briefly, may I say that, of all of the changes, and we are now really at the third stage of legislative change to fulfil the commitments of having a national electronic conveyancing system, one single NEC system for use throughout Australia, I thought that the move in this tranche of reform to the abolition of hard copy titles—I was going to say parchment but, of course, we are a long way away from that; we still have electronic—to facilitate the execution of the ultimate objective of this would be more controversial than it has been.</text>
          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001293">I am satisfied, as is the opposition generally, that, with the guidance of Mr Philip Page as the Chair of the Law Society Committee and others who have considered this legislation, including the Australian Institute of Conveyancers SA, we should support the same. I place on the record my appreciation to Mr Brenton Pike, the Registrar-General, who has provided me with a briefing. He has also kindly obtained for me a copy of my original crown lease of the part of land I currently own on Kangaroo Island, which is very good of him. I do not have the original parchment copy, I might say, but he did send me a facsimile transmission of that, so I was very pleased to have it, and I read it with interest. How helpful he is.</text>
          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001294">I have to say that, overall, during this legislative reform process, he has been most helpful. I wish him well in the implementation of this next stage of change. I would ask one thing, and that is that, in his interpretation of the draft guidelines which are to implement the processes for verification of identity and the like and verification of authority guidelines, he exercise some flexibility.</text>
          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001295">There is just one case I want to refer to in consultation, related to the production by a country resident of a driver's licence which, for the sake of this, I will say indicated that his name is John L. Smith. Because he did not have the full second name, it was rejected as an item for the purposes of verification. Obviously, as often occurs in the country, he had to travel some distance to a post office to present that. When he went back with something closer to the mark, it was rejected again.</text>
          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001296">So, we have this very unhelpful over-regulatory, prescriptive process which can sometimes make it very inconvenient. It may be fine for people, like many of us, who live in the convenience of a metropolitan area or close to a conveyancer or practitioner who might be handling this for us, but it is not there for everybody. So, in the implementation of this, I ask that he be given some flexibility in that regard. With those few comments, I will support the bill.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="speech">
          <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <electorate id="">Enfield</electorate>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Deputy Premier</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Justice Reform</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Planning</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Child Protection Reform</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for the Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Consumer and Business Services</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for the City of Adelaide</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <startTime time="2016-04-14T18:22:51" />
          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001297">
            <timeStamp time="2016-04-14T18:22:51" />
            <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU (Enfield—Deputy Premier, Attorney-General, Minister for Justice Reform, Minister for Planning, Minister for Industrial Relations, Minister for Child Protection Reform, Minister for the Public Sector, Minister for Consumer and Business Services, Minister for the City of Adelaide) (18:22):</by>  Can I thank the honourable member for her contribution. It was amongst her best, in my memory, and I commend her for it. I also would like to thank Mr Pike, because I do not want him to think it is only the member for Bragg, the deputy leader, who appreciates his work; I do, too. His powers of persuasion are obviously considerable, because he is receiving the most swift and trouble-free passage I have ever observed in this place.</text>
          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001298">Bill read a second time.</text>
        </talker>
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      <subproceeding>
        <name>Committee Stage</name>
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          <heading>Committee Stage</heading>
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        <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001300">In committee.</text>
        <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001301">Clauses 1 to 77 passed.</text>
        <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001302">Clause 78.</text>
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          <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001303">
            <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I move:</text>
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            <inserted>Amendment No 1 [AG–1]—</inserted>
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            <inserted>Page 31, line 11 [clause 78, inserted section 240F(2)(b)]—Delete 'lodges' and substitute 'executes'</inserted>
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          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001306">Amendment carried; clause as amended passed.</text>
          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001307">Remaining clauses (79 to 93), schedules 1 to 3 and title passed.</text>
        </talker>
      </subproceeding>
      <subproceeding>
        <name>Third Reading</name>
        <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001308">
          <heading>Third Reading</heading>
        </text>
        <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="speech">
          <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <electorate id="">Enfield</electorate>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Deputy Premier</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Justice Reform</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Planning</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Child Protection Reform</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for the Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Consumer and Business Services</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for the City of Adelaide</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <startTime time="2016-04-14T18:25:37" />
          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001309">
            <timeStamp time="2016-04-14T18:25:37" />
            <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU (Enfield—Deputy Premier, Attorney-General, Minister for Justice Reform, Minister for Planning, Minister for Industrial Relations, Minister for Child Protection Reform, Minister for the Public Sector, Minister for Consumer and Business Services, Minister for the City of Adelaide) (18:25):</by>  I move:</text>
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          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001310">
            <inserted>That this bill be now read a third time.</inserted>
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          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001311">Bill read a third time and passed.</text>
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          <text id="20160414b1e6b731b85040f7a0001313">At 18:26 the house adjourned until Tuesday 17 May 2016 at 11:00.</text>
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